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So. A note to all the "unicode makes this unusable" people - Apparently, while you were complaining, someone else was solving.
by far33d 19y ago
So. A note to all the "unicode makes this unusable" people -
Apparently, while you were complaining, someone else was solving.
- menloparkbum 19y agoThanks, grandma.
- microdan 19y agoI think the complaints were more about how pg was originally saying that he intended to never support Unicode. That said, people should realize that UTF-8 encoding/decoding is the zeroth step to internationalization with Unicode.
- curi 19y agopg didn't say that. people just made it up.
- olavk 19y agoHe did however say: "It's not for everyone. In fact, Arc embodies just about every form of political incorrectness possible in a programming language. It doesn't have strong typing, or even type declarations; it uses overlays on hash tables instead of conventional objects; its macros are unhygienic; it doesn't distinguish between falsity and the empty list, or between form and content in web pages; it doesn't have modules or any predefined form of encapsulation except closures; it doesn't support any character sets except ascii. Such things may have their uses, but there's also a place for a language that skips them, just as there is a place in architecture for markers as well as laser printers." (http://arclanguage.com/ http://arclanguage.com/) I certainly interpreted this as ASCII-only (along with presentational markup) was an explicit design decision, and I don't think this is a far-fetched interpretation. Luckily PG has clarified (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111189 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111189) that this is not really what he meant, and now everyone is happy and has regained trust in Arc!
- curi 19y agoWhat kind of site does it make YC if this is how to get karma?
- rms 19y agothere is a very different pattern of karma for comments in "big" threads.
- curi 19y agoOn reflection: your reply is ♫♪♫ to my ears. I ♥ good points... Edit: heh, "thanks grandma" has even more than that. Edit: btw it's funny that i'm still being upmodded
- curi 19y agoso someone downmodded all of: - a simple, popular comment - a comment suggesting maybe the first one shouldn't have been upmodded so much - a comment backing off Why would you downmod all of them? If you like dislike the first comment, you should like the second, and vice versa. And if you're unhappy with me in general for the first two, you should like the third one.
- euccastro 19y ago1) How do you know the same person downmodded the three? 2) Simplest explanation for that case would be that he's downmodding the latter two as noise. You can agree to a comment and still believe it doesn't add anything to the topic in which it appears.
- henning 19y agoOK. Now how about database access (with support for prepared statements), regular expressions, and networking?
- benmathes 19y agohttp://paulgraham.com/core.html http://paulgraham.com/core.html
- henning 19y agoSuper-duper. I'm not going to use Arc for anything serious until essential libraries are in place.
- Xichekolas 19y agoDarn. At least you were kind enough to let us know.
- pg 19y agoDifferent people have different ideas of serious. To me, exploratory programming is fairly serious, because that's the kind of programming that generates ideas. Arc is already capable of supporting some subset of applications that are serious in your sense. News.YC is at least moderately serious in that sense.
- henning 19y agoYou said News.YC uses some kind of persistent hash structure for storing everything. This seems to me like Greenspun's Tenth Law except with Berkeley DB instead of Common Lisp; I wouldn't want to write the logic to do what BDB already does much better and faster (I don't want to implement ACID transactions myself if I decide I need them).
- niels_olson 18y agonews.arc stores all information in flat files as lists.