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what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner tha
by jorgecurio 11y ago
what confuses me about the US-Israeli relationship is that the most of the times they work well but at times one is always sabatoging each other in a manner that makes you reconsider, is Israel and enemy or a friend to the United States? I don't think Japan would pull off shit like this.
It's like there's a four tier system to what defines a US Ally.
Platinum - Gets you exclusive access to black funds & latest weapons no other allies are getting. Discounted oil from Saudi too.
Gold - Gets you access to aids and credit line with the IMF. You get the top grade weapons that other allies wish they were getting haha.
Silver - Gets you access to some aids and political credit for your election periods in your country. Free defense of your country, we'll even pay half the cost of our stay.
Bronze - Gets honorable mention in speeches and aids but don't count on our diplomatic support. You are largely left on your own to defend your country. We'll sell you some of our refurbished weapons and overstocked weaponry at a discount or if you buy our bonds.
edit: why the downvotes? seems like any comment that seems to critcize US-Israel relationship on here are automatically downvoted to oblivion. As a Canadian, all of this is very confusing. A) Why in the fuck would the most powerful country succumb to a particular smaller country but nobody else B) Why in the fuck nobody is allowed to question the arrangement? C) Why are people who think Jesus will return in Israel (mental illness?) are allowed to make decisions on behalf of people who don't agree with it?
And to people who say both countries are acting in a way that maximizes their national interests, yet certain actions by certain country are seemingly kosher (no pun intended) while if another country in the similar position did the same actions, there would be severe punitive and a concerted diplomatic backlash and media smearing. All but one particular country seems to get a free golden pass on literally all aspects that influence United State's national interests.
The US gets less than what Israel gets out of the relationship. What was US's big reward for helping Israel? It incited attack from other anti-Israeli terrorists and continue to place the national security at risk just to further some geopolitical goals in some remote place that has nothing to do with the average American.
The emperor wears no clothes, and as a Canadian I just pointed out what I'm seeing. I have no stake in this argument or have mistrust or hatred for Israeli people and American peoples, but it's not hard to see the level of mistrust each countries populace has towards their own government's policy.
- brightball 11y agoMy guess is that it's probably significantly simpler than that. The US is not threatened by Iran. At all. Israel is threatened by Iran and Iran's leaders have said they would wipe Israel off the map. For Israel, there was probably a greater sense of urgency than the level of patience that we were willing to use.
- obrero 11y ago> Israel is threatened by Iran and Iran's leaders have said they would wipe Israel off the map. This was not said, it's just Zionist propaganda. Even the Washington Post says so ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-a... ). The fact that this lie is repeated over and over shows you how thoroughly Zionist propaganda has propagated through the US media.
- brightball 11y agoThat article also says the following, indicating that the propagation of this particular mistranslation was even done by Iran itself. > But the story doesn’t end there. Karim Sadjadpour, an Iranian specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, notes that Iranian government entities began to erect billboards and signs with the “wipe off” phrase in English. Joshua Teitelbaum of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs compiled an interesting collection of photographs of these banners, such as one on the building that houses reserve military forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. “Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world,” the sign reads in English."
- jonah 11y agoAnd the crazy thing is the other country doesn't even have to behave well or keep up its end of the bargain to maintain top-level status.
- redthrowaway 11y ago