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I don't see how you can be anything but completely wrong on this. Why have none of your predictions come true for the Android Market? (Yes, it's quite a bit s

by darshan 17y ago

I don't see how you can be anything but completely wrong on this. Why have none of your predictions come true for the Android Market? (Yes, it's quite a bit smaller than Apple's App Store, but it's still plenty big enough that if you were on track, we'd see evidence there.)

jsz0 17y ago
Google doesn't allow porno apps in the Market: "Nudity and Sexually Explicit Material We don't allow content that contains nudity, graphic sex acts, or sexually explicit material. We also don't allow content that drives traffic to commercial pornography sites." Gratuitous updates are a problem on Android. I find it hard to believe that apps like Wifi Analyzer or Mabilo Ringtones are really being updated 2-3 times a week. Maybe but it seems strange to me. They could just be honestly submitting daily builds or something. Supposedly 1.6 has made improvements to the Market that might nullify the problem (I'm stuck on 1.5 so I wouldn't know firsthand) For security concerns we did see the fake Bank of America app make it into the Android Market briefly. It's not a widespread problem but it's happened so we can't ignore it.
- darshan 17y ago
  Google doesn't allow porno apps in the Market Yes, that's the point. DHH isn't recommending removing all rules; he's recommending eliminating the approval process to get apps/updates into the Store. Apple would still, of course, have the ability to remove apps that violated the TOS. The Android Market is run in just this manner, and it isn't overrun with pornography. So having rules and enforcing them but not having to pre-approve every release seems to work. Gratuitous updates are a problem on Android. While there do appear to be some developers pushing fake updates, I'm not sure that exactly constitutes a problem. If it ever gets out of hand, there are a lot of ways this could be managed that don't involve pre-approval.
  - wanderr 17y ago
    The apps I usually see frequent updates are apps where there's a lot of bugfixing or innovation going on, nothing wrong with frequent updates there. I also think fake updates will tend to backfire on abusers, because users are presented with two options: upgrade, or uninstall.
bjplink 17y ago
They haven't come totally true because there isn't enough developer interest in the Android platform yet. I know from reading thread after thread on this site that the majority of folks here will find offense with that but I'm sorry that it's the truth. The Android's market share is garbage in comparison to the iPhone. The Android phones are surely fine pieces of hardware but they just don't have the saturation yet to be used in examples like this. I obviously can't prove this but I would be willing to bet that if the Android Marketplace had as many apps as the App Store it would be full of trash blocking out the good stuff. There's plenty of low quality stuff on the App Store even with the review process but high quality applications still float to the top. Further down someone makes the twist on his predictions by comparing it to the Internet. Sorry folks, but the Internet is full of junk. More of you should be aware of this now that the front page has had several "make money fast" posts recently. It's not all rainbows and butterflies out there; people will do anything to make a dollar and they don't particular care about changing the world with their new Ruby on Rails driven to-do list web application.

by darshan 17y ago

jsz0 17y ago

Google doesn't allow porno apps in the Market: "Nudity and Sexually Explicit Material We don't allow content that contains nudity, graphic sex acts, or sexually explicit material. We also don't allow content that drives traffic to commercial pornography sites." Gratuitous updates are a problem on Android. I find it hard to believe that apps like Wifi Analyzer or Mabilo Ringtones are really being updated 2-3 times a week. Maybe but it seems strange to me. They could just be honestly submitting daily builds or something. Supposedly 1.6 has made improvements to the Market that might nullify the problem (I'm stuck on 1.5 so I wouldn't know firsthand) For security concerns we did see the fake Bank of America app make it into the Android Market briefly. It's not a widespread problem but it's happened so we can't ignore it.

darshan 17y ago
Google doesn't allow porno apps in the Market Yes, that's the point. DHH isn't recommending removing all rules; he's recommending eliminating the approval process to get apps/updates into the Store. Apple would still, of course, have the ability to remove apps that violated the TOS. The Android Market is run in just this manner, and it isn't overrun with pornography. So having rules and enforcing them but not having to pre-approve every release seems to work. Gratuitous updates are a problem on Android. While there do appear to be some developers pushing fake updates, I'm not sure that exactly constitutes a problem. If it ever gets out of hand, there are a lot of ways this could be managed that don't involve pre-approval.
- wanderr 17y ago
  The apps I usually see frequent updates are apps where there's a lot of bugfixing or innovation going on, nothing wrong with frequent updates there. I also think fake updates will tend to backfire on abusers, because users are presented with two options: upgrade, or uninstall.

bjplink 17y ago

They haven't come totally true because there isn't enough developer interest in the Android platform yet. I know from reading thread after thread on this site that the majority of folks here will find offense with that but I'm sorry that it's the truth. The Android's market share is garbage in comparison to the iPhone. The Android phones are surely fine pieces of hardware but they just don't have the saturation yet to be used in examples like this. I obviously can't prove this but I would be willing to bet that if the Android Marketplace had as many apps as the App Store it would be full of trash blocking out the good stuff. There's plenty of low quality stuff on the App Store even with the review process but high quality applications still float to the top. Further down someone makes the twist on his predictions by comparing it to the Internet. Sorry folks, but the Internet is full of junk. More of you should be aware of this now that the front page has had several "make money fast" posts recently. It's not all rainbows and butterflies out there; people will do anything to make a dollar and they don't particular care about changing the world with their new Ruby on Rails driven to-do list web application.