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"Today the only reason to replace a computer is if someone spilled some coffee on it." Might be the most sensible sentance I have read on Hacker News. I guess

"Today the only reason to replace a computer is if someone spilled some coffee on it." Might be the most sensible sentance I have read on Hacker News. I guess you don't work in the Apple's marketing department. Villagers--please don't beat me up over the comment. To Apples credit, I haven't seen any blatant upgrade marketing; their customers provide the free advertising. "Gotta get my new device!". Now the constant fiddling/upgrading of the operating system? Without an easy way to revert--if said devise slows, or stops applications from opening. Sometimes I wonder?

erkkie 11y ago
Depends on your use-cases, I for example can't wait to get decent speed external disk space, something that only thunderbolt 3 in usb-c on the new macs delivers. Why? Travel and video editing for example. Backups. Virtual machines. The new wave of SSD's are too fast for any existing peripheral bus.
vinceguidry 11y ago
Apple is still innovating on designs, whereas every PC I've seen for the last 5 years or so looks pretty much the same.
- DasIch 11y ago
  The design of the Macbook hasn't really changed in forever and everyone else is copying it. There really isn't all that much innovation happening.
  - vinceguidry 11y ago
    What are you expecting, purple polka dots? There's the Retina MacBook Pro, which came with a significant redesign, the new MacBook, which is another redesign, which put the Retina screen into a Air-like format, and a brand new keyboard.
    - wtallis 11y ago
      Don't forget the Force Touch trackpad. It fixed the biggest problem with what was already the best trackpad on any laptop.
rayiner 11y ago
The mobile CPU space is still advancing rapidly, hence the yearly upgrades. But on the laptop/desktop side: Apple is two CPU generations behind on the retina MBP, and hasn't upgraded the Mac Pro in years. It hasn't been necessary.
- wtallis 11y ago
  The Retina MBP is not really two generations behind, due to the fact that Intel is running behind itself. Intel's release schedule has gotten really convoluted. The 13" rMBP is using the latest available processors for that product segment. The 15" was last updated a month before the relevant Broadwell processors were released, so it's still on Haswell. Since the Skylake processors with Iris Pro graphics haven't shipped yet, the 15" rMBP is still only one generation behind. The better argument to make would be pointing out that Intel can now get away with not updating their entire product line to the latest architecture and process.

erkkie 11y ago

Depends on your use-cases, I for example can't wait to get decent speed external disk space, something that only thunderbolt 3 in usb-c on the new macs delivers. Why? Travel and video editing for example. Backups. Virtual machines. The new wave of SSD's are too fast for any existing peripheral bus.

vinceguidry 11y ago

Apple is still innovating on designs, whereas every PC I've seen for the last 5 years or so looks pretty much the same.

DasIch 11y ago
The design of the Macbook hasn't really changed in forever and everyone else is copying it. There really isn't all that much innovation happening.
- vinceguidry 11y ago
  What are you expecting, purple polka dots? There's the Retina MacBook Pro, which came with a significant redesign, the new MacBook, which is another redesign, which put the Retina screen into a Air-like format, and a brand new keyboard.
  - wtallis 11y ago
    Don't forget the Force Touch trackpad. It fixed the biggest problem with what was already the best trackpad on any laptop.

rayiner 11y ago

The mobile CPU space is still advancing rapidly, hence the yearly upgrades. But on the laptop/desktop side: Apple is two CPU generations behind on the retina MBP, and hasn't upgraded the Mac Pro in years. It hasn't been necessary.

wtallis 11y ago
The Retina MBP is not really two generations behind, due to the fact that Intel is running behind itself. Intel's release schedule has gotten really convoluted. The 13" rMBP is using the latest available processors for that product segment. The 15" was last updated a month before the relevant Broadwell processors were released, so it's still on Haswell. Since the Skylake processors with Iris Pro graphics haven't shipped yet, the 15" rMBP is still only one generation behind. The better argument to make would be pointing out that Intel can now get away with not updating their entire product line to the latest architecture and process.