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So, as another outside observer looking in, the use of the private email doesn't seem to be relevant to the document release itself, right? That's just the resu

by caf 11y ago

So, as another outside observer looking in, the use of the private email doesn't seem to be relevant to the document release itself, right? That's just the result of a FOI request, because public official's emails are subject to FOI, regardless of where they're stored. So what I wonder is, do we see this with every candidate? Is there a similar archive of Jeb Bush's emails from his time as Governor of Florida? Or do the States not tend to have the same kind of FOI transparency as the Federal Government?

mattzito 11y ago
State laws vary, but jeb bush has been pretty transparent - iirc he actually released a book of his emails as governor.
- wavefunction 11y ago
  It should be pointed out that the book contained only emails sent and received from his official account, but nothing barred him (or Hillary) from using additional email accounts.
  - caseysoftware 11y ago
    As it should be. The problem is when you start blending the two.. conducting official business from personal accounts. That's opening the door to trouble as we're seeing.
caseysoftware 11y ago
To the best of my knowledge, governors would rarely have access to classified information other than law enforcement or potentially terrorism matters, so the laws and rules would be different than a Cabinet Secretary. I can't speak about Florida or any State specifically, my background is purely at the Federal level.
hackuser 11y ago
> the use of the private email doesn't seem to be relevant to the document release itself, right? That's just the result of a FOI request, because public official's emails are subject to FOI, regardless of where they're stored. I think probably someone would have tried to obtain her emails, whether the server issue came up or not. But as it happened, IIRC the sequence of events leading to the release began when the server issue came up. Also relevant is that because Clinton controlled the server, she originally controlled which emails were deleted as 'personal' and which were released to the public. > do the States not tend to have the same kind of FOI transparency as the Federal Government? Some states, at least, have open records laws. Also, I've seen many governmental organizations adopt the policy of deleting all email after, e.g., 30 days, to reduce 'liability' (transparency). > Is there a similar archive of Jeb Bush's emails from his time as Governor of Florida? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeb+bush+emails+site%3Anytimes.com https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeb+bush+emails+site%3Anytimes.com

by caf 11y ago

mattzito 11y ago

State laws vary, but jeb bush has been pretty transparent - iirc he actually released a book of his emails as governor.

wavefunction 11y ago
It should be pointed out that the book contained only emails sent and received from his official account, but nothing barred him (or Hillary) from using additional email accounts.
- caseysoftware 11y ago
  As it should be. The problem is when you start blending the two.. conducting official business from personal accounts. That's opening the door to trouble as we're seeing.

caseysoftware 11y ago

To the best of my knowledge, governors would rarely have access to classified information other than law enforcement or potentially terrorism matters, so the laws and rules would be different than a Cabinet Secretary. I can't speak about Florida or any State specifically, my background is purely at the Federal level.

hackuser 11y ago

> the use of the private email doesn't seem to be relevant to the document release itself, right? That's just the result of a FOI request, because public official's emails are subject to FOI, regardless of where they're stored. I think probably someone would have tried to obtain her emails, whether the server issue came up or not. But as it happened, IIRC the sequence of events leading to the release began when the server issue came up. Also relevant is that because Clinton controlled the server, she originally controlled which emails were deleted as 'personal' and which were released to the public. > do the States not tend to have the same kind of FOI transparency as the Federal Government? Some states, at least, have open records laws. Also, I've seen many governmental organizations adopt the policy of deleting all email after, e.g., 30 days, to reduce 'liability' (transparency). > Is there a similar archive of Jeb Bush's emails from his time as Governor of Florida? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeb+bush+emails+site%3Anytimes.com https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeb+bush+emails+site%3Anytimes.com