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If you ban sarcasm in addition to outrage I'll sign up to whatever thingamajig you're making there.
by DenisM 11y ago
If you ban sarcasm in addition to outrage I'll sign up to whatever thingamajig you're making there.
- LeifCarrotson 11y agoCan't tell if you're being serious or not. Would you actually enjoy that kind of network? Sarcasm is really hard to identify, and would be really hard to ban.
- mirimir 11y agoPoe's law :)
- DenisM 11y agoYes, absolutely. Sarcasm poisons the well of conversation like nothing else. When people disagree and provide an argument you can have a conversation about substance. When people disagree and provide no argument or a personal attack, it's easy to dismiss and move on from there. Sarcasm leaves you hanging precisely because it's hard to identify - is the person serious so you should continue to put effort, or is he not serious and you should quit this discussion? As to practical concerns - it's not the goal to catch every single instance of sarcasm, but rather to identify people who like to use it. People of this kind will be doing it regularly, and with various degree of subtlety, as such they will be caught in the act sooner or later.
- _0ffh 11y agoIt would be a strange use of sarcasm, in my opinion, to use it to keep people arguing to no avail. I'd rather call that disingenuous goading, not honest sarcasm. Personally, I'm rather fond of sarcasm and irony. But if I find myself in a dialogue, and another party seems to not get the point of a sarcastic or ironic comment, then I will point out the miscommunication.
- LeifCarrotson 11y agoCan't tell if you're being serious or not. Would you actually enjoy that kind of network? Sarcasm is really hard to identify, and would be really hard to ban.
- sosuke 11y agoI would as well. Sarcasm is a problem though. I don't like sarcasm over text. People tend to type their messages and perform gestures as they do so as if they were speaking to the recipient in person. Of course this causes all sorts of problems. Personally I had a minor cultural clash over someone saying "whatever" to me in professional conversation over text. It turned out that as it was very offensive to me meant nothing of the sort them. Text is read in the voice of the reader, its meaning is relative to the reader, and should aim to be as clear as possible whenever possible.
- jurip 11y agoThere's a heavily moderated and busy Facebook group focused on urbanism in Helsinki, "Lisää kaupunkia Helsinkiin". Irony and sarcasm are prohibited; they don't get you banned, at least not right away, but you do get called out for them. It really helps keep the discourse focused.