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At least in programming it's possible to step into a function and/or work at multiple levels of abstraction. Getting a math degree just to be able to fill in t

At least in programming it's possible to step into a function and/or work at multiple levels of abstraction. Getting a math degree just to be able to fill in the gaps created where 'it trivially follows' is equivalent to being required to memorize the API for a framework because clearly defined documentation is hidden behind a paywall. so called 'intellectual power' has little to do with it. What you're describing is familiarity with navigating a minefield of poorly structured information and tapping a academia (ie at a very high cost of entry) for 'special access' to resources that bridge the gaps. Of software development suffered from the same informational constraints and lack of innovation, we'd still be playing pong.

stuxnet79 11y ago
Well said. Memorizing the API is fundamental to success in most branches of math - but this erects a barrier that a lot of able individuals are unable to cross. I've always thought this was a problem but I almost never hear of anybody complaining about this so I figured it was just me. Languishing in the established system is usually interpreted as "sour grapes".
- pc2g4d 11y ago
  It strikes me as a collective means for mathematicians to reduce entry into their field and thus to increase their own salaries. Maybe you don't have to get a "math license" to practice math, but you have to somehow acquire a huge body of knowledge that is almost never spelled out fully in the mathematics literature. This will prevent many people from becoming mathematicians and thus make math a more exclusive and lucrative endeavor. To be cynical about it. I guess that's not much different from most fields' use of specialized vocabulary, etc. There are many informal methods of dissuading people from competing in your own little corner of the labor market.
xiaq 11y ago
> ... because clearly defined documentation is hidden behind a paywall. Hmm you are from US aren't you? :)

stuxnet79 11y ago

Well said. Memorizing the API is fundamental to success in most branches of math - but this erects a barrier that a lot of able individuals are unable to cross. I've always thought this was a problem but I almost never hear of anybody complaining about this so I figured it was just me. Languishing in the established system is usually interpreted as "sour grapes".

pc2g4d 11y ago
It strikes me as a collective means for mathematicians to reduce entry into their field and thus to increase their own salaries. Maybe you don't have to get a "math license" to practice math, but you have to somehow acquire a huge body of knowledge that is almost never spelled out fully in the mathematics literature. This will prevent many people from becoming mathematicians and thus make math a more exclusive and lucrative endeavor. To be cynical about it. I guess that's not much different from most fields' use of specialized vocabulary, etc. There are many informal methods of dissuading people from competing in your own little corner of the labor market.

xiaq 11y ago

> ... because clearly defined documentation is hidden behind a paywall. Hmm you are from US aren't you? :)