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Personally I want to make the right money now so that I can be the father I want to be in the future. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that my future ch

Personally I want to make the right money now so that I can be the father I want to be in the future. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that my future children will be the most important things in my life for several decades of my future. I don't think that it is unreasonable to consider any parent as having more important things than startups to do.

icebraining 11y ago
Equating "women" with "mothers" is the first prejudice (she asked about the former, not the latter): "According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, in 2014, 47.6 percent of women between age 15 and 44 had never had children"
- ryanlol 11y ago
  What about the majority of them that did?
  - icebraining 11y ago
    What point are you trying to make? All I said is that Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers, so it's wrong to equate the two. The latter is a subset, and an explanation that only covers them, as valid as it may be, is insufficient to explain something about all women.
    - ryanlol 11y ago
      Yeah, but while doing risk analysis it's definitely a thing worth considering.
      - icebraining 11y ago
        Which wasn't what he was doing.
    - DrScump 11y ago
      <Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers> Sure, because the former is a superset of the latter. If you meant instead that "childless Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers", even that stat defies meaningful comparison by including teenagers, clear down to 15-year-olds. A more relevant comparison for this workplace discussion would be constrained to a post-college-age group (say, ages 21-44).
- Normal_gaussian 11y ago
  The way the conversation is quoted prevents us from seeing who introduces the term mother, I suspect it is harking back to previous comments.
HillRat 11y ago
I think that's a worthy goal. Speaking as a parent of a young child, I can say that he is more important to us than any startup or career. But, obviously, careers and startups don't go away and are pretty critical for the health and success of your children. My career requires a lot of travel and odd hours; my wife's startup requires massive time and effort investment (and before too long probably travel). This is a hard balancing act, and requires significant time discipline and a very clear understanding of who is doing what when. We're also fortunate that we can afford in-home childcare, and have an absolutely wonderful nanny; most people don't have that luxury, and I'm well aware that it affords us certain options that make hard choices merely difficult. Having a child is, for an entrepreneur (male or female), a hurdle that does demand action planning and confident communications with potential investors and partners. But I simply don't accept that it should ever be considered an insurmountable obstacle by investors. Unfortunately, investments are one area where it's hard to say that "the free market will correct this," because it's impossible to quantify the value of companies never funded and products never built.

icebraining 11y ago

Equating "women" with "mothers" is the first prejudice (she asked about the former, not the latter): "According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, in 2014, 47.6 percent of women between age 15 and 44 had never had children"

ryanlol 11y ago
What about the majority of them that did?
- icebraining 11y ago
  What point are you trying to make? All I said is that Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers, so it's wrong to equate the two. The latter is a subset, and an explanation that only covers them, as valid as it may be, is insufficient to explain something about all women.
  - ryanlol 11y ago
    Yeah, but while doing risk analysis it's definitely a thing worth considering.
    - icebraining 11y ago
      Which wasn't what he was doing.
  - DrScump 11y ago
    <Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers> Sure, because the former is a superset of the latter. If you meant instead that "childless Women is a (significantly!) larger group than Mothers", even that stat defies meaningful comparison by including teenagers, clear down to 15-year-olds. A more relevant comparison for this workplace discussion would be constrained to a post-college-age group (say, ages 21-44).
Normal_gaussian 11y ago
The way the conversation is quoted prevents us from seeing who introduces the term mother, I suspect it is harking back to previous comments.

HillRat 11y ago

I think that's a worthy goal. Speaking as a parent of a young child, I can say that he is more important to us than any startup or career. But, obviously, careers and startups don't go away and are pretty critical for the health and success of your children. My career requires a lot of travel and odd hours; my wife's startup requires massive time and effort investment (and before too long probably travel). This is a hard balancing act, and requires significant time discipline and a very clear understanding of who is doing what when. We're also fortunate that we can afford in-home childcare, and have an absolutely wonderful nanny; most people don't have that luxury, and I'm well aware that it affords us certain options that make hard choices merely difficult. Having a child is, for an entrepreneur (male or female), a hurdle that does demand action planning and confident communications with potential investors and partners. But I simply don't accept that it should ever be considered an insurmountable obstacle by investors. Unfortunately, investments are one area where it's hard to say that "the free market will correct this," because it's impossible to quantify the value of companies never funded and products never built.