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Why are you against the format?

by RexM 11y ago

sliken 11y ago
How dare someone who made a game, is giving it away for free, and someone else is paying for bandwidth decide not to pick the optimal file format for all downloaders? How selfish of them.
wmil 11y ago
The size difference is trivial so there's no real benefit to .7z files. However it's a non standard format so I have to hunt around for what the CLI tool is called, then install it, the look up the options... Sure that's not a huge amount of work, but it just seems preposterous. Like using some 'gopher 2.0' protocol instead of http.
- swk2015 11y ago
  'Preposterous'
- pmarreck 11y ago
  Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.
  - wmil 11y ago
    p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz. Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.
    - simoncion 11y ago
      > p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. If you're running KDE (and I think GNOME), the built-in GUI de-compressors handle 7-zip just fine. > Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. shrug 7-Zip compresses at least as well as RAR, and doesn't have a file format that permits feeding executable bytecode to a probably-not-very-well-examined bytecode interpreter. [0] [0] True story! http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-programming.html http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-progr...
    - DanBC 11y ago
      >And I don't have to download anything to open a [...] .tgz. You do on some OSs. http://superuser.com/questions/234649/how-to-extract-a-tar-file-tgz-in-windows http://superuser.com/questions/234649/how-to-extract-a-tar-f...
    - pmarreck 11y ago
      > p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file I know, googling "7zip OS X" and seeing that the first link ends up directing you to p7zip, is incredibly hard. > You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip How about, it has the best compression available from an open-source compressor. RAR is not open-source.
- Natsu 11y ago
  Linux: http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z Windows: http://www.7-zip.org/ http://www.7-zip.org/ Mac: http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac
  - deathanatos 11y ago
    Heck, if you're using MATE/GNOME on Linux, Engrampa/File roller or whatever they call it opens this and many other formats just fine. I click the link, and a moment later click the downloaded file in Chromium, and it opens right up. From there I can drag and drop into a directory/folder in Caja/Nautilus. Painless.

Why are you against the format?

by RexM 11y ago

Why are you against the format?

How dare someone who made a game, is giving it away for free, and someone else is paying for bandwidth decide not to pick the optimal file format for all downloaders? How selfish of them.

wmil 11y ago

The size difference is trivial so there's no real benefit to .7z files. However it's a non standard format so I have to hunt around for what the CLI tool is called, then install it, the look up the options... Sure that's not a huge amount of work, but it just seems preposterous. Like using some 'gopher 2.0' protocol instead of http.

swk2015 11y ago
'Preposterous'
pmarreck 11y ago
Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.
- wmil 11y ago
  p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz. Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.
  - simoncion 11y ago
    > p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. If you're running KDE (and I think GNOME), the built-in GUI de-compressors handle 7-zip just fine. > Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. shrug 7-Zip compresses at least as well as RAR, and doesn't have a file format that permits feeding executable bytecode to a probably-not-very-well-examined bytecode interpreter. [0] [0] True story! http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-programming.html http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-progr...
  - DanBC 11y ago
    >And I don't have to download anything to open a [...] .tgz. You do on some OSs. http://superuser.com/questions/234649/how-to-extract-a-tar-file-tgz-in-windows http://superuser.com/questions/234649/how-to-extract-a-tar-f...
  - pmarreck 11y ago
    > p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file I know, googling "7zip OS X" and seeing that the first link ends up directing you to p7zip, is incredibly hard. > You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip How about, it has the best compression available from an open-source compressor. RAR is not open-source.
Natsu 11y ago
Linux: http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z Windows: http://www.7-zip.org/ http://www.7-zip.org/ Mac: http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac
- deathanatos 11y ago
  Heck, if you're using MATE/GNOME on Linux, Engrampa/File roller or whatever they call it opens this and many other formats just fine. I click the link, and a moment later click the downloaded file in Chromium, and it opens right up. From there I can drag and drop into a directory/folder in Caja/Nautilus. Painless.