> Where the admin knows it will not work because he has seen it fail time and again, but the developer insists it will work because thats what his carefully opt

> Where the admin knows it will not work because he has seen it fail time and again, but the developer insists it will work because thats what his carefully optimized code is supposed to. Dude, I'm offended :-). Not all programmers build castles in the sky. But seriously, I tend to concur with this view. I've seen many programmers unwilling to accept the limits of their own ability to grasp the full scale of reality. I've seen it in myself countless times, and I still do it, sadly. Complexity is very often overwhelming, and you think you have it under control because "you designed it", but you don't. I think we'd all benefit from insulting the meat [1] every once in a while. Twenty years from now, there's a good chance there won't even be computers that can run our code anymore, except maybe for prized collectors' items. Why be so stubborn about it? [1] http://drleannawolfe.com/kung.html http://drleannawolfe.com/kung.html