That seems like more of an argument against mocking in general. Even if you DI you are still expecting X method to be called on the mock object and have created

That seems like more of an argument against mocking in general. Even if you DI you are still expecting X method to be called on the mock object and have created that coupling. I think DHH describes a great example that illustrates a big difference in philosophy around this: http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2012/dependency-injection-is-not-a-virtue.html http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2012/dependency-injection...