Oh, that's from very long ago. And most of them weren't that bad. And I have had good managers, really good ones who added value, but only 3-4 really qualify (i

Oh, that's from very long ago. And most of them weren't that bad. And I have had good managers, really good ones who added value, but only 3-4 really qualify (in 35 years). I work in a flat organization now. No managers at all. So it's an interesting perspective.