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What the world really needs is more dudes taking the devil's advocate position on sexism issues.

ve55 11y ago
Yes, that would work out really well for them.
douche 11y ago
What the world needs is less journalism that picks any available thread out of ambiguous research to push their pet agendas. It's not just the "SJW-types", it's an across-the-board problem. It generates clicks and grabs eyeballs... Calling that bullshit out is a worthy cause.
Moshe_Silnorin 11y ago
He's not playing devils advocate, he's accurately interpreting the study.
araneae 11y ago
My sarcasm detector isn't operational; if serious, why more dudes as opposed to dudettes?
jm_l 11y ago
Scott (author) critiques bad statistics; that's all there is to it. He admits all the time that critiquing studies that are in favor of his beliefs makes him feel like a bad person, but altogether Scott is "in favor of niceness" and it shows in his writing. Scott ends up defending the fringe simply because they get the worst arguments thrown at them the most often.
protomyth 11y ago
What the world really needs is more truth being spoken regardless of any physical or social characteristic of the speakers. Any action based on lies or misinterpretations damages the world. What the world needs is less people calling out others for who they are as opposed to the what they said.
tmalsburg2 11y ago
What a lazy comment. I recommend looking at the actual study [1]. It is reported as showing that male programmers are incompetent and misogynist. However, when you look at the data (especially Fig. 5 on page 15) you'll find that this claim is baseless. Male outsiders showed the exact same drop in acceptance rates when their avatar was gendered as women outsiders did. No evidence for gender bias. Looking at the data for insiders (left part of Fig. 5), you have evidence that male insiders have lower PR acceptance rates when their avatar was gendered but women insiders don't. Applying the authors' logic you would have to conclude that tech is biased against men, which is nonsense and which illustrates that the reasoning used in this study isn't sound. [1] https://peerj.com/preprints/1733.pdf https://peerj.com/preprints/1733.pdf Edit: Down voting instead of responding is lazy, too.

ve55 11y ago

Yes, that would work out really well for them.

What the world needs is less journalism that picks any available thread out of ambiguous research to push their pet agendas. It's not just the "SJW-types", it's an across-the-board problem. It generates clicks and grabs eyeballs... Calling that bullshit out is a worthy cause.

Moshe_Silnorin 11y ago

He's not playing devils advocate, he's accurately interpreting the study.

araneae 11y ago

My sarcasm detector isn't operational; if serious, why more dudes as opposed to dudettes?

jm_l 11y ago

Scott (author) critiques bad statistics; that's all there is to it. He admits all the time that critiquing studies that are in favor of his beliefs makes him feel like a bad person, but altogether Scott is "in favor of niceness" and it shows in his writing. Scott ends up defending the fringe simply because they get the worst arguments thrown at them the most often.

protomyth 11y ago

What the world really needs is more truth being spoken regardless of any physical or social characteristic of the speakers. Any action based on lies or misinterpretations damages the world. What the world needs is less people calling out others for who they are as opposed to the what they said.

tmalsburg2 11y ago

What a lazy comment. I recommend looking at the actual study [1]. It is reported as showing that male programmers are incompetent and misogynist. However, when you look at the data (especially Fig. 5 on page 15) you'll find that this claim is baseless. Male outsiders showed the exact same drop in acceptance rates when their avatar was gendered as women outsiders did. No evidence for gender bias. Looking at the data for insiders (left part of Fig. 5), you have evidence that male insiders have lower PR acceptance rates when their avatar was gendered but women insiders don't. Applying the authors' logic you would have to conclude that tech is biased against men, which is nonsense and which illustrates that the reasoning used in this study isn't sound. [1] https://peerj.com/preprints/1733.pdf https://peerj.com/preprints/1733.pdf Edit: Down voting instead of responding is lazy, too.