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Everyone (myself included) cries about house prices, yet I believe there are many many truly beautiful small cities and towns where you have great internet acce

Everyone (myself included) cries about house prices, yet I believe there are many many truly beautiful small cities and towns where you have great internet access, safety and amazingly affordable housing. People just needs to have the guts to move to these places and recruit friends and family and like minded folks to join them.

Grishnakh 11y ago
You seem to be forgetting that there are no jobs in those places. Affordable housing isn't worth jack when the only job you can get there is working at Walmart, because there aren't any software development jobs there (for instance). The other problem is that if you're a young professional, you may very well be single. Moving to a small city or town means you will not get a date, unless you want to date some overweight, uneducated woman who has 4 kids and talks about Jesus and guns all the time. If you're on this site, that probably isn't the right demographic for you. You'd have better luck moving to a foreign country; rural and urban America are that different these days.
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- trav4225 11y ago
  "rural and urban America are that different these days" ...which is why I'd prefer rural America over urban America any day. :)
- mehwoot 11y ago
  unless you want to date some overweight, uneducated woman who has 4 kids and talks about Jesus and guns all the time I think if I wanted to pick a comment as the canonical example what is wrong with people on HN this would be the one.
  - Kalium 11y ago
    Honestly? When I lived in South Texas, that was only a slight caricature. They didn't talk about Jesus and guns all the time.
  - jqm 11y ago
    His choice of words was harsh but I think he does have a fair point. The demographics of rural areas don't make for good dating opportunities for educated, secular professional young people.
    - thaumasiotes 11y ago
      Better or worse than San Francisco? (assuming a young male) I think the last statistic I found was something like 140 single men in the 20s-30s age bracket for every 100 single women.
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      - shiftpgdn 11y ago
        NYC has the opposite ratio.
      - x3n0ph3n3 11y ago
        Competition is high, but at least there's a supply.
        thaumasiotes 11y ago
        Assuming the women don't enter relationships with more than one guy at a time, this is very literally a case of no supply.
        raddad 11y ago
        The advantages of same sex marriages.
        Grishnakh 11y ago
        Or, the advantage of polyamorous relationships.
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  - Grishnakh 11y ago
    So you there there's something wrong with not being an Evangelical Christian? Nice to know that you think this site should only be for Christians. Is this a common sentiment around here? I'm a bit new. I never saw any messages saying this forum was intended only for conservative Christians.
- rokhayakebe 11y ago
  1) We do not have to go very far from big cities. Usually one or two hours outside a city will do. 2) I lived in Scottsdale, Arizona. You can live buy a home in the heart of the city for sub $300k. 3) I will not comment on the dating part. To each their own. 4) I understand it will be difficult, but you can consider it a mega startup. You launch it and recruit others who believe in it.
  - Grishnakh 11y ago
    1) 2 hours outside a city is not commutable to your job in the city. 2) Scottsdale is an extremely conservative city with a downright hellish climate. Not everyone wants to live someplace where it's 120F every day in the summer, and never goes below 100F at night. 3) So you wouldn't have a problem with people with entirely different political views from you moving into your city, and then demanding and voting for totally different policies than you're used to? If you advocate for people to move to where you are because the cost of housing is cheaper, then you have absolutely no right to complain when they change the political climate there.
SteveGerencser 11y ago
This is hat my wife and I did. We left California for Indiana. We left Indiana for Tennessee. Each time we took our jobs with us. She spent the last 6 years working as a principle engineer for an aerospace company from home. I work in marketing. Since we moved here 4 more friends have joined us out here in the country. The only thing we really lack is true high speed fat bandwidth. But that an be worked around as well.
- rokhayakebe 11y ago
  Yes, I think it takes some guts. It does help to have a significant other as well.

Grishnakh 11y ago

You seem to be forgetting that there are no jobs in those places. Affordable housing isn't worth jack when the only job you can get there is working at Walmart, because there aren't any software development jobs there (for instance). The other problem is that if you're a young professional, you may very well be single. Moving to a small city or town means you will not get a date, unless you want to date some overweight, uneducated woman who has 4 kids and talks about Jesus and guns all the time. If you're on this site, that probably isn't the right demographic for you. You'd have better luck moving to a foreign country; rural and urban America are that different these days.

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trav4225 11y ago
"rural and urban America are that different these days" ...which is why I'd prefer rural America over urban America any day. :)
mehwoot 11y ago
unless you want to date some overweight, uneducated woman who has 4 kids and talks about Jesus and guns all the time I think if I wanted to pick a comment as the canonical example what is wrong with people on HN this would be the one.
- Kalium 11y ago
  Honestly? When I lived in South Texas, that was only a slight caricature. They didn't talk about Jesus and guns all the time.
- jqm 11y ago
  His choice of words was harsh but I think he does have a fair point. The demographics of rural areas don't make for good dating opportunities for educated, secular professional young people.
  - thaumasiotes 11y ago
    Better or worse than San Francisco? (assuming a young male) I think the last statistic I found was something like 140 single men in the 20s-30s age bracket for every 100 single women.
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    - shiftpgdn 11y ago
      NYC has the opposite ratio.
    - x3n0ph3n3 11y ago
      Competition is high, but at least there's a supply.
      - thaumasiotes 11y ago
        Assuming the women don't enter relationships with more than one guy at a time, this is very literally a case of no supply.
        raddad 11y ago
        The advantages of same sex marriages.
        Grishnakh 11y ago
        Or, the advantage of polyamorous relationships.
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- Grishnakh 11y ago
  So you there there's something wrong with not being an Evangelical Christian? Nice to know that you think this site should only be for Christians. Is this a common sentiment around here? I'm a bit new. I never saw any messages saying this forum was intended only for conservative Christians.
rokhayakebe 11y ago
1) We do not have to go very far from big cities. Usually one or two hours outside a city will do. 2) I lived in Scottsdale, Arizona. You can live buy a home in the heart of the city for sub $300k. 3) I will not comment on the dating part. To each their own. 4) I understand it will be difficult, but you can consider it a mega startup. You launch it and recruit others who believe in it.
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  1) 2 hours outside a city is not commutable to your job in the city. 2) Scottsdale is an extremely conservative city with a downright hellish climate. Not everyone wants to live someplace where it's 120F every day in the summer, and never goes below 100F at night. 3) So you wouldn't have a problem with people with entirely different political views from you moving into your city, and then demanding and voting for totally different policies than you're used to? If you advocate for people to move to where you are because the cost of housing is cheaper, then you have absolutely no right to complain when they change the political climate there.

SteveGerencser 11y ago

This is hat my wife and I did. We left California for Indiana. We left Indiana for Tennessee. Each time we took our jobs with us. She spent the last 6 years working as a principle engineer for an aerospace company from home. I work in marketing. Since we moved here 4 more friends have joined us out here in the country. The only thing we really lack is true high speed fat bandwidth. But that an be worked around as well.

rokhayakebe 11y ago
Yes, I think it takes some guts. It does help to have a significant other as well.