I dunno, what you say just reads like a bunch of buzzwords that Agile, even supposedly "refined" or "good" versions of Agile, never prioritizes or delivers. Mor

I dunno, what you say just reads like a bunch of buzzwords that Agile, even supposedly "refined" or "good" versions of Agile, never prioritizes or delivers. More often, when quality work is produced it's produced in spite of Agile, not because of it, which is a shame because then people falsely attribute that success back to Agile. I admit though that it's hard to know exactly what you mean just exchanging textual comments like this, so I'm happy to leave it at that.