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Quite nice answer. - Googled for some background and stumbled upon the following: [Danilo Campos, has been known to tweet similarly strong views about diversit

Quite nice answer. - Googled for some background and stumbled upon the following: [Danilo Campos, has been known to tweet similarly strong views about diversity. Campos joined in August]: "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathie and compassion anytime soon so let's limit their scope of damage" Such a rubbish. I think GitHub has their priorities / focus wrong. - Glad I'm using Gitlab.

robalfonso 11y ago
A couple of thoughts come up, I'm not a white guy and I'm offended by that guys statement, its prejudiced and I'd be embarrassed if that came out of my mouth. Second if a company is going to trade on being a meritocracy, then be a meritocracy. Why have a diversity council, why be concerned over a bunch of "white guys" and what they can't learn. If they are the best at what they do and if github considers good management traits include compassion and empathy, then whats it matter what color they are the best people would rise up regardless. This is just prejudice plain and simple.
- hga 11y ago
  Second if a company is going to trade on being a meritocracy.... They haven't for some time: https://www.google.com/search?q=github+meritocracy+rug https://www.google.com/search?q=github+meritocracy+rug
  - kuschku 11y ago
    What GitHub did is the worst possible response. We women get worse education, so the solution is to lower hiring standards for us? Seriously? Lobby for better women education, sponsor groups and events engaging in that, but don't hire less qualified people just for their genitals or their skin color.
    - hga 11y ago
      Except that, in all but the most intangible possible metrics, at least in the US women officially get better educations, as measured by graduation rates, grades, and sanctions including most especially medical interventions (for ADD), for both K-12 and college. And in the former most of their teachers are women.
      - kuschku 11y ago
        Well, that makes it even more ridiculous. But even if women get worse education, the answer can’t be to reduce hiring standards.
slig 11y ago
He isn't very fond of HN / Y Combinator as well. His article "Y Combinator and the Negative Externalities of Hackernews" (2014) http://danilocampos.com/2014/09/y-combinator-and-the-negative-externalities-of-hacker-news/ http://danilocampos.com/2014/09/y-combinator-and-the-negativ... and the HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8389163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8389163
- kuschku 11y ago
  Have you read this HN comments on racism? They're disturbing. I don't think he understands the difference between /being racist/ and /neither working towards nor against, just taking profit of a racist situation created by someone else/ (a) is racism, and needs to be fought directly. (b) is capitalism, and a whole different story (although one could argue that it should be fought, too, and companies should work for the advancement of society, not just profit) When he mislabels (b) as (a), he distorts the meaning of racism — same with sexism.

robalfonso 11y ago

A couple of thoughts come up, I'm not a white guy and I'm offended by that guys statement, its prejudiced and I'd be embarrassed if that came out of my mouth. Second if a company is going to trade on being a meritocracy, then be a meritocracy. Why have a diversity council, why be concerned over a bunch of "white guys" and what they can't learn. If they are the best at what they do and if github considers good management traits include compassion and empathy, then whats it matter what color they are the best people would rise up regardless. This is just prejudice plain and simple.

hga 11y ago
Second if a company is going to trade on being a meritocracy.... They haven't for some time: https://www.google.com/search?q=github+meritocracy+rug https://www.google.com/search?q=github+meritocracy+rug
- kuschku 11y ago
  What GitHub did is the worst possible response. We women get worse education, so the solution is to lower hiring standards for us? Seriously? Lobby for better women education, sponsor groups and events engaging in that, but don't hire less qualified people just for their genitals or their skin color.
  - hga 11y ago
    Except that, in all but the most intangible possible metrics, at least in the US women officially get better educations, as measured by graduation rates, grades, and sanctions including most especially medical interventions (for ADD), for both K-12 and college. And in the former most of their teachers are women.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      Well, that makes it even more ridiculous. But even if women get worse education, the answer can’t be to reduce hiring standards.

slig 11y ago

He isn't very fond of HN / Y Combinator as well. His article "Y Combinator and the Negative Externalities of Hackernews" (2014) http://danilocampos.com/2014/09/y-combinator-and-the-negative-externalities-of-hacker-news/ http://danilocampos.com/2014/09/y-combinator-and-the-negativ... and the HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8389163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8389163

kuschku 11y ago
Have you read this HN comments on racism? They're disturbing. I don't think he understands the difference between /being racist/ and /neither working towards nor against, just taking profit of a racist situation created by someone else/ (a) is racism, and needs to be fought directly. (b) is capitalism, and a whole different story (although one could argue that it should be fought, too, and companies should work for the advancement of society, not just profit) When he mislabels (b) as (a), he distorts the meaning of racism — same with sexism.