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Can you give me an example of soft real time game that isn't hurt by the presence of a garbage collector?

hacker_9 11y ago
Anything built with Unity, such as Cities Skylines. Additionally anything built with unreal engine [0] like Gears of War, the Arkham KNight series etc [0] https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview
- gregstula 11y ago
  Right, you use C++ to build game engines, you can use scripting languages on top of that once the engine is built.
greggman 11y ago
I'm not sure what a soft real time game is. Here's two lists of some games with garbage collection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games https://unity3d.com/showcase/gallery https://unity3d.com/showcase/gallery
- gregstula 11y ago
  Unreal and Unity were built using C++. They offer garbage collected languages on top of their C++ game engines for scripting game logic. Any significant modifications to the engine will need to be done in C++
  - greggman 11y ago
    https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview The link is for C++ garbage collection in UnrealEngine, not UnrealScript nor Blueprints
    - gregstula 11y ago
      > Unreal's game-level memory management system uses reflection to implement garbage collection. Yep. Game-level garbage collected C++. Which is exactly what I said, I just a didn't mention GC on C++ to avoid obscuring my point. I promise you the code at the game-engine-level is manually memory managed C++
      - greggman 11y ago
        You do realize that reference counting is considered a form of garbage collection right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_s... BTW: I've written 6 engines for AAA games. 3 of them used reference counting. AAA C++ games use garbage collection all the time. Maybe yours didn't. Mine did. Unreal does. So does Unity
        CyberDildonics 11y ago
        That's like saying World of Warcarft uses garbage collection because it uses Lua. The higher level language on top of an engine isn't what was being talked about since Minecraft was written completely in Java and thus dealt with the garbage collector at every level.

Anything built with Unity, such as Cities Skylines. Additionally anything built with unreal engine [0] like Gears of War, the Arkham KNight series etc [0] https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview

gregstula 11y ago
Right, you use C++ to build game engines, you can use scripting languages on top of that once the engine is built.

greggman 11y ago

I'm not sure what a soft real time game is. Here's two lists of some games with garbage collection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games https://unity3d.com/showcase/gallery https://unity3d.com/showcase/gallery

gregstula 11y ago
Unreal and Unity were built using C++. They offer garbage collected languages on top of their C++ game engines for scripting game logic. Any significant modifications to the engine will need to be done in C++
- greggman 11y ago
  https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Garbage_Collection_Overview The link is for C++ garbage collection in UnrealEngine, not UnrealScript nor Blueprints
  - gregstula 11y ago
    > Unreal's game-level memory management system uses reflection to implement garbage collection. Yep. Game-level garbage collected C++. Which is exactly what I said, I just a didn't mention GC on C++ to avoid obscuring my point. I promise you the code at the game-engine-level is manually memory managed C++
    - greggman 11y ago
      You do realize that reference counting is considered a form of garbage collection right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_s... BTW: I've written 6 engines for AAA games. 3 of them used reference counting. AAA C++ games use garbage collection all the time. Maybe yours didn't. Mine did. Unreal does. So does Unity
      - CyberDildonics 11y ago
        That's like saying World of Warcarft uses garbage collection because it uses Lua. The higher level language on top of an engine isn't what was being talked about since Minecraft was written completely in Java and thus dealt with the garbage collector at every level.