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There are two reasons for this. 1) Programming attract this sort of people in first place, where you see programmers, you will see lots of people like the ones

by speeder 11y ago

There are two reasons for this. 1) Programming attract this sort of people in first place, where you see programmers, you will see lots of people like the ones described in the article. 2) It is very problematic, unfixed, and people need help. At least I do... but at the same time I refrain from asking for help, because usually the result is negative. "Oh, here we go again with the super intelligent guy complaining about how intelligent he is." Not only for "gifted", but many mental issues are looked down, and are not considered by society a disease like a physical one, a person that is sneezing everywhere, get people to pity that person and help, but a person that is unable to work in society even with heavy meds, need to "grow and mature".

jschwartzi 11y ago
About twice a week I wish I was dumber for some reason or another.
- Practicality 11y ago
  Yes, ignorance is bliss. And "less intelligent" people can't help but be ignorant. I often envy their obliviousness. Even if the whole group is wrong, they all agree with one another and fit in together. Those of us who understand have to choose to either be wrong to fit in or be right and be cast out. Either choice is painful.
- bonesmoses 11y ago
  Eh. I used to do that until my 30's or so. Now I just want those damn kids off my lawn. ;)
kalzium 11y ago
Go to a doctor and let them describe you something for depression. Worked for me. Be open about your problems and don't be ashamed. Most people feel the way you do. I never lie to people about my mental issues - not even at work. Guess what? 95% of the people I worked with (all other programmers) were on some kind of meds, too - for depression, social anxiety, ADHD etc.. Feels so much better just being open about it and crack a joke here and there. "Let's just all put down work, go to the beach and cry!" "I'm in. I'll bring beer." "Oh, I wish I could!" [I remember that conversation happening on Slack once] I don't know! Sitting home alone, pitying yourself and being upset about society never really changes anything. ;)
- speeder 11y ago
  Happily for me, I don't have depression (at least, I think I don't). But when I was a kid, the school begged my parents many times to take me to some kind of doctor, and this only offended my parents, that always refused, the exception is that they once too me to see if I was deaf or not. After I reached adulthood, and flunked hard at life in general, that I went to seek medical help. The results were: 1) the first few medics I went, believed I was a junkie wanting fake prescription, I have no idea why (I never used any illegal substance, never had used controlled meds before, and never got drunk, and never smoked). 2) My parents had a few nasty fights with me, claiming that I was normal and only doing what I was doing to hurt them or something. 3) As I went learning about my conditions, and started to be open about it, people instead started to interpret that I wanted pity and attention, or that I was humblebragging, and had invariably negative reactions. 4) Eventually I found a good medic, that prescribed me Ritalin, it is helping a little, but very little. Among my issues is that I never learned how to work "hard", I only work in bursts, and only when I am interested or close to a deadline, school was extremely easy to me, I don't even know my teacher faces of the last school years because I just slept in the classes (and still aced the tests), I never learned to sit down quiet and study, this is now biting me in the ass (I don't had Calculus classes on university, and now that I need it I am trying to learn by myself, but I keep getting distracted...) I never learned hwo to pretend that I am working, like people do in their workplaces, even when I was the highest performing person in the workplace I still got fired because I was not "serious" or I wasn't "wearing the company shirt", because while all my co-workers just sat staring at their code 8 hours, I coded all that I had to code in 1 hour and then spent the rest goofing around on youtube and reddit. When I DO want to code 8 hours, I still end goofing around too easily (example: Xcode crashes... while I wait for it to launch I decide to read e-mail, one e-mail has a link to wikipedia... and here we go wasting 4 hours reading wikipedia). Plus lots of other issues irrelevant to work performance (like needing stuff cut-off from t-shirts, moving all the time to the point of losing a girlfriend over it, puking when eating certain foods, inability to communicate with "normal" people, because no matter what phrase I construct, it keeps getting way over their heads, and the list goooooes on). The best I found I can do is rant on internet sometimes. And keep taking Ritalin properly, and going to the psychologist... still very slow progress, I am 28, live with my parents, have no girlfriend, I am unemployed, and don't own any property (but have debts, my total net worth is negative).

by speeder 11y ago

jschwartzi 11y ago

About twice a week I wish I was dumber for some reason or another.

Practicality 11y ago
Yes, ignorance is bliss. And "less intelligent" people can't help but be ignorant. I often envy their obliviousness. Even if the whole group is wrong, they all agree with one another and fit in together. Those of us who understand have to choose to either be wrong to fit in or be right and be cast out. Either choice is painful.
bonesmoses 11y ago
Eh. I used to do that until my 30's or so. Now I just want those damn kids off my lawn. ;)

kalzium 11y ago

Go to a doctor and let them describe you something for depression. Worked for me. Be open about your problems and don't be ashamed. Most people feel the way you do. I never lie to people about my mental issues - not even at work. Guess what? 95% of the people I worked with (all other programmers) were on some kind of meds, too - for depression, social anxiety, ADHD etc.. Feels so much better just being open about it and crack a joke here and there. "Let's just all put down work, go to the beach and cry!" "I'm in. I'll bring beer." "Oh, I wish I could!" [I remember that conversation happening on Slack once] I don't know! Sitting home alone, pitying yourself and being upset about society never really changes anything. ;)

speeder 11y ago
Happily for me, I don't have depression (at least, I think I don't). But when I was a kid, the school begged my parents many times to take me to some kind of doctor, and this only offended my parents, that always refused, the exception is that they once too me to see if I was deaf or not. After I reached adulthood, and flunked hard at life in general, that I went to seek medical help. The results were: 1) the first few medics I went, believed I was a junkie wanting fake prescription, I have no idea why (I never used any illegal substance, never had used controlled meds before, and never got drunk, and never smoked). 2) My parents had a few nasty fights with me, claiming that I was normal and only doing what I was doing to hurt them or something. 3) As I went learning about my conditions, and started to be open about it, people instead started to interpret that I wanted pity and attention, or that I was humblebragging, and had invariably negative reactions. 4) Eventually I found a good medic, that prescribed me Ritalin, it is helping a little, but very little. Among my issues is that I never learned how to work "hard", I only work in bursts, and only when I am interested or close to a deadline, school was extremely easy to me, I don't even know my teacher faces of the last school years because I just slept in the classes (and still aced the tests), I never learned to sit down quiet and study, this is now biting me in the ass (I don't had Calculus classes on university, and now that I need it I am trying to learn by myself, but I keep getting distracted...) I never learned hwo to pretend that I am working, like people do in their workplaces, even when I was the highest performing person in the workplace I still got fired because I was not "serious" or I wasn't "wearing the company shirt", because while all my co-workers just sat staring at their code 8 hours, I coded all that I had to code in 1 hour and then spent the rest goofing around on youtube and reddit. When I DO want to code 8 hours, I still end goofing around too easily (example: Xcode crashes... while I wait for it to launch I decide to read e-mail, one e-mail has a link to wikipedia... and here we go wasting 4 hours reading wikipedia). Plus lots of other issues irrelevant to work performance (like needing stuff cut-off from t-shirts, moving all the time to the point of losing a girlfriend over it, puking when eating certain foods, inability to communicate with "normal" people, because no matter what phrase I construct, it keeps getting way over their heads, and the list goooooes on). The best I found I can do is rant on internet sometimes. And keep taking Ritalin properly, and going to the psychologist... still very slow progress, I am 28, live with my parents, have no girlfriend, I am unemployed, and don't own any property (but have debts, my total net worth is negative).