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Open-sourced Parse now supports push notifications

158 points by jamesjyu 11y ago

eggie5 11y ago
was waiting for this!
yefim 11y ago
Very quick turnaround. Glad the devs are serious about keeping Parse open and available.
hayksaakian 11y ago
This is the main use I had for parse, so I will certainly be checking it out
philip1209 11y ago
I wonder whether open-sourcing Parse tools could increase its use rather than be used to shut it down.
- Moto7451 11y ago
  I think it certainly will. I have always avoided Parse because I was worried what would happen if it was shut down and the limitations on extensibility due to the previously closed codebase. Now those are no longer concerns.
- sjdev 11y ago
  We have been having that discussion internally at the company I work for. After the initial shock wore off and we started deciding what we would do with the projects currently on Parse, we realized that this could very well be a good thing. Before this, we were not able to use Parse for larger clients or clients with specific database hosting needs, but that may no longer be an issue. I'm excited to see what the future holds for Open Source Parse.
  - delphinius81 11y ago
    We spent a few days investigating alternatives and then decided to just wait and see what happens over the next few months. We want to switch to DynamoDB instead of MongoDB due to cheaper hosting costs through AWS for the amount of data we use. There's already someone working on cleaning up the DB code to allow for switching DB providers.
    - pritambarhate 11y ago
      In my study of Dynamo DB I found that it might actually be more expensive than managed Mongo DB. But I didn't get a chance to test this out because of lack of budget as we decided to build against Mongo DB rather than build for both and check which one is more expensive. The problem with Dynamo DB is that one needs to provision the read and write capacity in advance, which means that one needs to over provision in order to be sure. Also even for things like exporting database which requires lots of reads in short time, one needs to provision the read capacity. This can make the back ups very expensive. However I am basing this from my study of their docs as we were building our application. (A chat server). It will be good if somebody can share their actual experience about Dynamo DB especially from the perspective of cost. Yes, almost unlimited scalability is very attractive, but I found that I had to think about data access patterns a lot to ensure that we will stay in acceptable read write quota for Dynamo DB. This was causing a lot of delay in our MVP. So we decided to go with Mongo DB which we knew we could scale fairly beyond our MVP and may be rewrite the data access layer later on if we achieve a mass that requires a switch to something like Dynamo Db or manual sharding.
leesalminen 11y ago
Is the idea that you're already using Parse in your mobile application? Or can this be used as a standalone tool to enable push notifications in existing, non Parse apps? I found it fairly trivial to do push notifications with Node and pre existing libraries.
- gfosco 11y ago
  There are many apps using Parse only for Push, so it's good for both... But, you've already got that solved (in a similar fashion, this is using node modules.)
gramakri 11y ago
This is really fantastic and looks like the parse team is delivering on the promises (https://github.com/ParsePlatform/parse-server/issues/56 https://github.com/ParsePlatform/parse-server/issues/56)! I am looking forward to seeing the dashboard now :-)
- mentos 11y ago
  Yea I am really hoping they have approval to release the dashboard as its a majority of the value of the Parse service.
  - drewgross 11y ago
    We do! I'm in the middle of adding the schemas API to parse-server, without which the dashboard won't work.
DanFeldman 11y ago
This is by far the best shutdown of a service I've seen in recent memory. (Though they're still getting a post on 'Our Incredible Journey'[0]) [0]http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
bijbij 11y ago
I had written a project which is based on parse. I can not afford to change it by now. I am so disappointed by startup services that close up suddenly.
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  Can you host it or pay someone to host it?
- detaro 11y ago
  They give you an entire year of warning to find somewhere else, give out the tools for others to offer a compatible service and they "close up suddenly"?
- lacker 11y ago
  Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I know it's really frustrating when you rely on a service that closes down. I'm curious - can you not afford to change it because it's too much work, or can you not afford to change it because the alternatives are too expensive? Maybe there is a way forward that is not as bothersome as you expect.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - schwarrrtz 11y ago
    I'm involved in a project that uses Parse, and by this point the client SDKs are so thoroughly embedded into our codebase that changing to another backend system would indeed be a fair bit of work. Apparently modular design is a thing. Fortunately, Parse has provided us with more advanced warning and open-source support that I could ever have expected. This is consistent with my experience using the service; you probably don't remember, but you personally responded to a tweet I sent regarding an outage, and followed up to make sure that the issue was resolved for me. Many thanks to you and your team for all your hard work.
    - lacker 11y ago
lilcarlyung 11y ago
Parse going open source is all good... But is it only me that considered one of the best things with Parse being their very generous free tier?
- bowmessage 11y ago
  Probably not, seeing as they had to close their doors.
- campers 11y ago
  A micro VM on the big cloud providers is only a few dollars a month, and should you need to scale its a lot cheaper than $100/month for 10 API calls per second!
draw_down 11y ago
Smart quotes in code that's meant to be copy-pasted. That's a paddlin'.
- jamesjyu 11y ago
  Fixed! Stupid Wordpress with their smart quotes converter.
Dowwie 11y ago
I'm confused. Can someone please point me to material that explains when to use a parse-like solution?

158 points by jamesjyu 11y ago

eggie5 11y ago

was waiting for this!

yefim 11y ago

Very quick turnaround. Glad the devs are serious about keeping Parse open and available.

hayksaakian 11y ago

This is the main use I had for parse, so I will certainly be checking it out

philip1209 11y ago

I wonder whether open-sourcing Parse tools could increase its use rather than be used to shut it down.

Moto7451 11y ago
I think it certainly will. I have always avoided Parse because I was worried what would happen if it was shut down and the limitations on extensibility due to the previously closed codebase. Now those are no longer concerns.
sjdev 11y ago
We have been having that discussion internally at the company I work for. After the initial shock wore off and we started deciding what we would do with the projects currently on Parse, we realized that this could very well be a good thing. Before this, we were not able to use Parse for larger clients or clients with specific database hosting needs, but that may no longer be an issue. I'm excited to see what the future holds for Open Source Parse.
- delphinius81 11y ago
  We spent a few days investigating alternatives and then decided to just wait and see what happens over the next few months. We want to switch to DynamoDB instead of MongoDB due to cheaper hosting costs through AWS for the amount of data we use. There's already someone working on cleaning up the DB code to allow for switching DB providers.
  - pritambarhate 11y ago
    In my study of Dynamo DB I found that it might actually be more expensive than managed Mongo DB. But I didn't get a chance to test this out because of lack of budget as we decided to build against Mongo DB rather than build for both and check which one is more expensive. The problem with Dynamo DB is that one needs to provision the read and write capacity in advance, which means that one needs to over provision in order to be sure. Also even for things like exporting database which requires lots of reads in short time, one needs to provision the read capacity. This can make the back ups very expensive. However I am basing this from my study of their docs as we were building our application. (A chat server). It will be good if somebody can share their actual experience about Dynamo DB especially from the perspective of cost. Yes, almost unlimited scalability is very attractive, but I found that I had to think about data access patterns a lot to ensure that we will stay in acceptable read write quota for Dynamo DB. This was causing a lot of delay in our MVP. So we decided to go with Mongo DB which we knew we could scale fairly beyond our MVP and may be rewrite the data access layer later on if we achieve a mass that requires a switch to something like Dynamo Db or manual sharding.

leesalminen 11y ago

Is the idea that you're already using Parse in your mobile application? Or can this be used as a standalone tool to enable push notifications in existing, non Parse apps? I found it fairly trivial to do push notifications with Node and pre existing libraries.

gfosco 11y ago
There are many apps using Parse only for Push, so it's good for both... But, you've already got that solved (in a similar fashion, this is using node modules.)

gramakri 11y ago

This is really fantastic and looks like the parse team is delivering on the promises (https://github.com/ParsePlatform/parse-server/issues/56 https://github.com/ParsePlatform/parse-server/issues/56)! I am looking forward to seeing the dashboard now :-)

mentos 11y ago
Yea I am really hoping they have approval to release the dashboard as its a majority of the value of the Parse service.
- drewgross 11y ago
  We do! I'm in the middle of adding the schemas API to parse-server, without which the dashboard won't work.

DanFeldman 11y ago

This is by far the best shutdown of a service I've seen in recent memory. (Though they're still getting a post on 'Our Incredible Journey'[0]) [0]http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ http://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

bijbij 11y ago

I had written a project which is based on parse. I can not afford to change it by now. I am so disappointed by startup services that close up suddenly.

voltagex_ 11y ago
Can you host it or pay someone to host it?
detaro 11y ago
They give you an entire year of warning to find somewhere else, give out the tools for others to offer a compatible service and they "close up suddenly"?
lacker 11y ago
Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I know it's really frustrating when you rely on a service that closes down. I'm curious - can you not afford to change it because it's too much work, or can you not afford to change it because the alternatives are too expensive? Maybe there is a way forward that is not as bothersome as you expect.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- schwarrrtz 11y ago
  I'm involved in a project that uses Parse, and by this point the client SDKs are so thoroughly embedded into our codebase that changing to another backend system would indeed be a fair bit of work. Apparently modular design is a thing. Fortunately, Parse has provided us with more advanced warning and open-source support that I could ever have expected. This is consistent with my experience using the service; you probably don't remember, but you personally responded to a tweet I sent regarding an outage, and followed up to make sure that the issue was resolved for me. Many thanks to you and your team for all your hard work.
  - lacker 11y ago

lilcarlyung 11y ago

Parse going open source is all good... But is it only me that considered one of the best things with Parse being their very generous free tier?

bowmessage 11y ago
Probably not, seeing as they had to close their doors.
campers 11y ago
A micro VM on the big cloud providers is only a few dollars a month, and should you need to scale its a lot cheaper than $100/month for 10 API calls per second!

draw_down 11y ago

Smart quotes in code that's meant to be copy-pasted. That's a paddlin'.

jamesjyu 11y ago
Fixed! Stupid Wordpress with their smart quotes converter.

Dowwie 11y ago

I'm confused. Can someone please point me to material that explains when to use a parse-like solution?