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Wait, where are the Windows binaries? Oh, I see. They trying to be smart and say "cross-platform" because now it runs on more Linux distros. That's not smart,

Wait, where are the Windows binaries? Oh, I see. They trying to be smart and say "cross-platform" because now it runs on more Linux distros. That's not smart, that's faulty marketing. And AFAIK it already was running on 90% of Linux and also on MacOS.

alfanick 11y ago
it is a big news - it really is cross-platform - OS X version was really outdated
- romanovcode 11y ago
  Using it on my Mac every day and didn't even notice that it was outdated. But thanks for info.
  - masklinn 11y ago
    The OSX version is/was a fork of htop 0.8.2
- akerro 11y ago
  And there was no BSD version.
  - floatboth 11y ago
    Well, it did run on FreeBSD, with a requirement to mount procfs :)
yorwba 11y ago
BSD is not Linux. htop now supports several different Unices.
kajecounterhack 11y ago
No, it's accurate marketing. Asking for htop to be available on windows is kinda silly if you recall that htop is "top++" and depends on having a unix filesystem. "Cross-platform" is a contextual term.
- noselasd 11y ago
  Why does it depend on having a unix file systems ? (note that it doesn't use /proc on e.g. freebsd)
- masklinn 11y ago
  > depends on having a unix filesystem. It doesn't do that. Before the multiplatform changes it did depend on having procfs (linux's I assume since BSDs had a non-identical procfs yet weren't supported), aside from the OSX fork which ripped out all the /proc access and replaced them with OSX API calls. What it does depend on is ncurses.
  - kajecounterhack 11y ago
    Ah, thanks for the correction. I had no idea it wasn't using procfs anymore, or that darwin was using something very different. TIL :)
    - masklinn 11y ago
      > I had no idea it wasn't using procfs anymore It still uses procfs for Linux (since that's there by default), but not for the other ports. Consider Platform_getLoadAverage for instance: * linux uses /proc/loadavg[0] * freebsd and openbsd use sysctl({CTL_VM, VM_LOADAVG})[1][2] * OSX uses getloadavg(3)[3] [0] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/linux/Platform.c#L143 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/linux/Platform.... [1] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/freebsd/Platform.c#L123 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/freebsd/Platfor... [2] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/openbsd/Platform.c#L181 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/openbsd/Platfor... [3] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/darwin/Platform.c#L144 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/darwin/Platform...
Piskvorrr 11y ago
"Until it supports MY specific OS, it's not cross-platform, wah wah wah!" In this way, there is no cross-platform program at all, because there's always something that's not supported. How is Windows a measuring-stick of compatibility for UNIXlike tools? (And why would this ever be useful on Windows, which has completely different way of managing processes?)
- romanovcode 11y ago
  I don't even use Windows. I'm just sayin' calling something cross-platform when it doesn't support most used OS is wrong.
  - Piskvorrr 11y ago
    I very much doubt that Windows is the "most used OS" where console applications are considered. That's just like saying "why do you call this airplane engine cross-platform when you can't even use it on a car? I don't care that it fits most airplanes, there are far more cars!" Different purposes.

alfanick 11y ago

it is a big news - it really is cross-platform - OS X version was really outdated

romanovcode 11y ago
Using it on my Mac every day and didn't even notice that it was outdated. But thanks for info.
- masklinn 11y ago
  The OSX version is/was a fork of htop 0.8.2
akerro 11y ago
And there was no BSD version.
- floatboth 11y ago
  Well, it did run on FreeBSD, with a requirement to mount procfs :)

yorwba 11y ago

BSD is not Linux. htop now supports several different Unices.

kajecounterhack 11y ago

No, it's accurate marketing. Asking for htop to be available on windows is kinda silly if you recall that htop is "top++" and depends on having a unix filesystem. "Cross-platform" is a contextual term.

noselasd 11y ago
Why does it depend on having a unix file systems ? (note that it doesn't use /proc on e.g. freebsd)
masklinn 11y ago
> depends on having a unix filesystem. It doesn't do that. Before the multiplatform changes it did depend on having procfs (linux's I assume since BSDs had a non-identical procfs yet weren't supported), aside from the OSX fork which ripped out all the /proc access and replaced them with OSX API calls. What it does depend on is ncurses.
- kajecounterhack 11y ago
  Ah, thanks for the correction. I had no idea it wasn't using procfs anymore, or that darwin was using something very different. TIL :)
  - masklinn 11y ago
    > I had no idea it wasn't using procfs anymore It still uses procfs for Linux (since that's there by default), but not for the other ports. Consider Platform_getLoadAverage for instance: * linux uses /proc/loadavg[0] * freebsd and openbsd use sysctl({CTL_VM, VM_LOADAVG})[1][2] * OSX uses getloadavg(3)[3] [0] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/linux/Platform.c#L143 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/linux/Platform.... [1] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/freebsd/Platform.c#L123 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/freebsd/Platfor... [2] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/openbsd/Platform.c#L181 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/openbsd/Platfor... [3] https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/darwin/Platform.c#L144 https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/blob/master/darwin/Platform...

Piskvorrr 11y ago

"Until it supports MY specific OS, it's not cross-platform, wah wah wah!" In this way, there is no cross-platform program at all, because there's always something that's not supported. How is Windows a measuring-stick of compatibility for UNIXlike tools? (And why would this ever be useful on Windows, which has completely different way of managing processes?)

romanovcode 11y ago
I don't even use Windows. I'm just sayin' calling something cross-platform when it doesn't support most used OS is wrong.
- Piskvorrr 11y ago
  I very much doubt that Windows is the "most used OS" where console applications are considered. That's just like saying "why do you call this airplane engine cross-platform when you can't even use it on a car? I don't care that it fits most airplanes, there are far more cars!" Different purposes.