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It's amazing that at age 22 I've already seemingly "aged-out" of being an early adopter/power user of new social media (not that Snapchat is new, but I use it m

by gavman 11y ago

It's amazing that at age 22 I've already seemingly "aged-out" of being an early adopter/power user of new social media (not that Snapchat is new, but I use it maybe once or twice a day and I've never even heard of "Triller" and "VSCO"). My 15 year old sister is always rolling her eyes telling me how to "correctly" use my existing social media apps and I've never heard of most of the new apps she's into.

anon4 11y ago
I didn't know how to use Facebook when I was 18, so don't feel too bad. We grew up on IRC and PHPBB, social networks of fundamentally different make than the ones in use now. Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising.
- EC1 11y ago
  There was for a brief period what I like to call the "wild west" of the web. All just shitty phpBB and whatnot boards for every topic. There was no concept of social media. I genuinely got to know the people, mods, smods, gmods, admins, superadmins (the list of "positions" was always comically long and induced great drama on most communities). I visited many of those people I formed connections with online, in person. I feel like social media has swallowed the people from these communities and created large "highways" instead of communities. Facebook groups just aren't the same. There's something comforting knowing it was "just some fucking guy" hosting the website for fun.
  - soperj 11y ago
    Yep. I was the same way. The community feel definetely got lost along the way.
  - SunShiranui 11y ago
    I think that kind of cultural expression is something we need to protect and keep alive. A future when all of our communities, all of our social interactions, are routed two a small amount of services hosted by great companies is one I don't look forward to. That kind of thing - just setting something up for the hell of it, and slowly building a community, or a group of friends that way - to me it's very special.
    - spc476 11y ago
      I remember when I first encountered BBSes (mid to late 80s). Dialing into a slew of local systems and enlarging my social circle. Then there was the Internet and many of my former BBS social circle were deriding it, saying it didn't have that community feel. I remember when I first encountered USENET (early 90s). Reading scores of USENET groups and enlarging my social circle, even going to far as to go to a yearly meeting one group held for several years. Then there was the World Wide Web that everything was being funneled in to. Most of the USENET crowd I was with were deriding it, saying it didn't have that community feel. I remember when I first encountered Slashdot (late 90s). Reading score of comments on trending topics and again, enlarging my social circle. Then there was Digg and many on Slashdot were deriding that, saying it didn't have that community feel ...
      - EC1 11y ago
        That's all well and good but we've hit the top. Neither of those were billion dollar corporations.
        spc476 11y ago
        I also remember when no one could get fired for buying IBM, and when no one could get fired for buying Microsoft. Both were also (and still are) billion dollar corporations.
    - eclipxe 11y ago
      I agree. That's sorta what HN used to feel like also...
  - bemmu 11y ago
    I feel a bit the same way. I was running a BBS in 90s, which allowed only one person to connect at a time. I ended up meeting a big bunch of my users in person. To recreate this, maybe I'll try starting a video chat when random people want to ask me for advice. Tried that today when someone sent me a random message on FB asking me for advice about living in Japan, was fun.
- gavman 11y ago
  > Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising. Very true. And like some of the other commentors are pointing out, it's somewhat sad that the old, more "natural" communities built over time are becoming a dying breed.
  - lmm 11y ago
    All communities evolve. I don't think there's anything particularly more natural about one approach or another (if anything I'd say phpBB promotes a very unnatural mode of conversation because of the way its "topics" work).
- lohengramm 11y ago
  I still don't know how to use Facebook... Neither Snapchat or whatever social thing. I only need a text messaging app, which today is WhatsApp, and i'm fine.
- anon4 11y ago
  P.S. as a corollary, if you were 14 today and on snapchat, you'd be one of the weird people she doesn't want to snapchat with and you'd be in the exact same position.
- ascorbic 11y ago
  There's still a huge number of very active phpBB-type bulletin boards out their, with all the usual drama. They turn up whenever you search for help on a random non-tech topic. I love to visit the world for a little bit. It's like walking into a real locals' pub, where the regulars are at the bar chatting to the landlord about the crazy stuff Dave got up to at the weekend. They're probably the same people who go home and post on their homebrew, beekeeping, classic car, medieval history etc, etc forums.
mercer 11y ago
In my experience so far it's a selective thing. Certain types of social media, apps or pop culture I am 'with' (Rick & Morty, certain indy games), but others I didn't even really understand years ago (twitter, myspace).
PeterTMayer 11y ago
With technology, the cultural gap between generations widens, but the time gap between generation ages actually shrinks. Every generation has their own technology and apps and I think it is fine. You, being 22, might not even use Facebook at all, whereas I, being 38, still use it, so I feel "aged-out" versus you. :) The problem with some of these new apps is the loss of "real" human connections. Like this girl said she almost does not even pay attention to her snaps because she gets so many. She just responds. What is the point of that? It seems it is more important for her to get high scores to show she is popular than the actual interaction. This might create some social and psychological problems for her later in life. At least this is my humble opinion. Full disclaimer: I am working on a social app too, but opposite of these current alternatives, we are focusing on the "real" part, the non-idealized part of human interaction.

by gavman 11y ago

anon4 11y ago

I didn't know how to use Facebook when I was 18, so don't feel too bad. We grew up on IRC and PHPBB, social networks of fundamentally different make than the ones in use now. Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising.

EC1 11y ago
There was for a brief period what I like to call the "wild west" of the web. All just shitty phpBB and whatnot boards for every topic. There was no concept of social media. I genuinely got to know the people, mods, smods, gmods, admins, superadmins (the list of "positions" was always comically long and induced great drama on most communities). I visited many of those people I formed connections with online, in person. I feel like social media has swallowed the people from these communities and created large "highways" instead of communities. Facebook groups just aren't the same. There's something comforting knowing it was "just some fucking guy" hosting the website for fun.
- soperj 11y ago
  Yep. I was the same way. The community feel definetely got lost along the way.
- SunShiranui 11y ago
  I think that kind of cultural expression is something we need to protect and keep alive. A future when all of our communities, all of our social interactions, are routed two a small amount of services hosted by great companies is one I don't look forward to. That kind of thing - just setting something up for the hell of it, and slowly building a community, or a group of friends that way - to me it's very special.
  - spc476 11y ago
    I remember when I first encountered BBSes (mid to late 80s). Dialing into a slew of local systems and enlarging my social circle. Then there was the Internet and many of my former BBS social circle were deriding it, saying it didn't have that community feel. I remember when I first encountered USENET (early 90s). Reading scores of USENET groups and enlarging my social circle, even going to far as to go to a yearly meeting one group held for several years. Then there was the World Wide Web that everything was being funneled in to. Most of the USENET crowd I was with were deriding it, saying it didn't have that community feel. I remember when I first encountered Slashdot (late 90s). Reading score of comments on trending topics and again, enlarging my social circle. Then there was Digg and many on Slashdot were deriding that, saying it didn't have that community feel ...
    - EC1 11y ago
      That's all well and good but we've hit the top. Neither of those were billion dollar corporations.
      - spc476 11y ago
        I also remember when no one could get fired for buying IBM, and when no one could get fired for buying Microsoft. Both were also (and still are) billion dollar corporations.
  - eclipxe 11y ago
    I agree. That's sorta what HN used to feel like also...
- bemmu 11y ago
  I feel a bit the same way. I was running a BBS in 90s, which allowed only one person to connect at a time. I ended up meeting a big bunch of my users in person. To recreate this, maybe I'll try starting a video chat when random people want to ask me for advice. Tried that today when someone sent me a random message on FB asking me for advice about living in Japan, was fun.
gavman 11y ago
> Plus, you are (were) one of the dorks and your sister is one of the cool kids. The two groups have noticeably different modes of socialising. Very true. And like some of the other commentors are pointing out, it's somewhat sad that the old, more "natural" communities built over time are becoming a dying breed.
- lmm 11y ago
  All communities evolve. I don't think there's anything particularly more natural about one approach or another (if anything I'd say phpBB promotes a very unnatural mode of conversation because of the way its "topics" work).
lohengramm 11y ago
I still don't know how to use Facebook... Neither Snapchat or whatever social thing. I only need a text messaging app, which today is WhatsApp, and i'm fine.
anon4 11y ago
P.S. as a corollary, if you were 14 today and on snapchat, you'd be one of the weird people she doesn't want to snapchat with and you'd be in the exact same position.
ascorbic 11y ago
There's still a huge number of very active phpBB-type bulletin boards out their, with all the usual drama. They turn up whenever you search for help on a random non-tech topic. I love to visit the world for a little bit. It's like walking into a real locals' pub, where the regulars are at the bar chatting to the landlord about the crazy stuff Dave got up to at the weekend. They're probably the same people who go home and post on their homebrew, beekeeping, classic car, medieval history etc, etc forums.

mercer 11y ago

In my experience so far it's a selective thing. Certain types of social media, apps or pop culture I am 'with' (Rick & Morty, certain indy games), but others I didn't even really understand years ago (twitter, myspace).

PeterTMayer 11y ago

With technology, the cultural gap between generations widens, but the time gap between generation ages actually shrinks. Every generation has their own technology and apps and I think it is fine. You, being 22, might not even use Facebook at all, whereas I, being 38, still use it, so I feel "aged-out" versus you. :) The problem with some of these new apps is the loss of "real" human connections. Like this girl said she almost does not even pay attention to her snaps because she gets so many. She just responds. What is the point of that? It seems it is more important for her to get high scores to show she is popular than the actual interaction. This might create some social and psychological problems for her later in life. At least this is my humble opinion. Full disclaimer: I am working on a social app too, but opposite of these current alternatives, we are focusing on the "real" part, the non-idealized part of human interaction.