3 ms·

The summary seems to be all positive regarding women's contributions except for the last one: "Women have lower acceptance rates as outsiders when they are ide

The summary seems to be all positive regarding women's contributions except for the last one: "Women have lower acceptance rates as outsiders when they are identifiable as women.". Looking at the data, they say that the acceptance rate for female outsiders is 62.5%, but they don't say what it is for men. Looking at the chart it looks like ~63.5%. And acceptance rates for both genders drop by >=10% going from non-gendered to gendered. Can we infer then that the bias is somewhat across the board for pull requests from easily gendered users?

notatoad 11y ago
it looks like the criteria for determining gender is to pull it from a google+ profile that shares an email address with the github account, and is not using any information from the github profile. It seems likely to me that the bias here is gmail users versus non-gmail (corporate domain?) users.
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  Hmm..., this could very well modify the results. Do they present the numbers when they limit it to only people with google+ accounts or to only people using @gmail as their email address?
- astine 11y ago
  That's incorrect. The study identified the gender of the Github users twice. They got their 'canonical' gender for users using your method (and removed from their sample users who could not be identified with this method,) but later to figure out whether a user's gender was identifiable, they used the Github user's own profile. Non-Google+ users were not analyzed at all. That could possibly still influence the results, but not the way you are suggesting.
gregdoesit 11y ago
It does seem like this would be an even more important conclusion. Whether you're a man or a women, your PR will much more likely be accepted of your profile doesn't reveal your gender (at least not in the sense that creators of this study can identify it).

notatoad 11y ago

it looks like the criteria for determining gender is to pull it from a google+ profile that shares an email address with the github account, and is not using any information from the github profile. It seems likely to me that the bias here is gmail users versus non-gmail (corporate domain?) users.

Lawtonfogle 11y ago
Hmm..., this could very well modify the results. Do they present the numbers when they limit it to only people with google+ accounts or to only people using @gmail as their email address?
astine 11y ago
That's incorrect. The study identified the gender of the Github users twice. They got their 'canonical' gender for users using your method (and removed from their sample users who could not be identified with this method,) but later to figure out whether a user's gender was identifiable, they used the Github user's own profile. Non-Google+ users were not analyzed at all. That could possibly still influence the results, but not the way you are suggesting.

gregdoesit 11y ago

It does seem like this would be an even more important conclusion. Whether you're a man or a women, your PR will much more likely be accepted of your profile doesn't reveal your gender (at least not in the sense that creators of this study can identify it).