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Long before Let's Encrypt, SMTP transactions with STARTTLS have permitted self-signed and non-root-CA chained certificates. The pervasiveness of self-signed ce
by linkregister 11y ago
Long before Let's Encrypt, SMTP transactions with STARTTLS have permitted self-signed and non-root-CA chained certificates.
The pervasiveness of self-signed certificates for SMTP servers means that rejecting them would drop large amounts of email. STARTTLS is basically useful for thwarting passive collection of network traffic.
- makomk 11y agoGmail's new rules on unencrypted e-mail don't support self-signed certificates though - you have to use an offcial CA-issued certificate from one of Google's approved CAs.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 11y agoWhat's your source for that?
- technion 11y agoThat doesn't bring a lot of extra security though, because there's no name verification. I can get a valid letsencrypt cert on anyrandomdomain.com, and if I can hijack your MX and point at it, it's "valid".
- hueving 11y agoWhat? How can you get a cert for a domain you don't control?
- technion 11y agoI don't need to control your domain. If I control my own domain, which could be any throwaway domain I just purchased, I can get an SSL certificate on it. And if I can point your MX records there, via hijack or any other means, then I have a valid SSL certificate for receiving your email.
- jbclements 11y agoI'm not so sure about that; I use a self-signed cert for port 25 TLS, and I just sent from google to my domain, and didn't see a warning.