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The question is Who does google optimize for? As a publicly traded company, it optimizes for GOOG. I have nothing against google, but I do think there is not e

The question is Who does google optimize for? As a publicly traded company, it optimizes for GOOG. I have nothing against google, but I do think there is not enough skepticism our fear about them eating the whole stack. * Receive gmail link from friend. * Use Chrome Browser as gateway to internet. * Use DNS to resolve that URL. * Site built on Angular and has new SPDY tags. * Libraries and Fonts served from CDN. see something unclear at the url. * use google search to find that link * google analytics beacons on both websites report your traffic. I am concerned about the temptation for google to get up to something naughty. Luckily, as we now, it is an undisputed fact that our data is 100% safe with google and there are no organizations trying to actively attack their network or intercede. We also know, that compromising an individual (either an employee or a customer of google) is 100% impossible, never has happened, and never conceivably could happen. So it isn't a big deal. So, is the issue you can't run a mailserver? Maybe. Maybe not. You can't crawl many valuable sites now, unless you are google bot or a big vendor. 2 (3 if we count microsoft) companies can ban you from competing on mobile. etc. The slight losses in some areas to optimize for what google wants are small. In aggregate, they are wildly irresponsible for us to accept and we shoudlnt.

bluecmd 11y ago
> As a publicly traded company, it optimizes for GOOG. False. The voting stock are not traded, so the founders still have irrevocable rights to do whatever they please.
- vonklaus 11y ago
  I meant that the company does what is in its own best interest. It does publicly trade stock with voting rights as GOOGL which has a 1:1 share to vote. It does not allow the class B stock to trade publicly which is 1:10. I meant, and you correctly pointed out was not clear or a particularly good way to verbalize, that google like most companies does what is best for itself. In googles case this is a combination of maximizing shareholder value and the vision various thoughtleaders in the company have. I do not believe google is evil or bad. I used to believe this. I now believe that google is doing a lot of great things. However by achieving horizontal success in almost every area of such a powerful concept, it effects how the landscape develops and does cause many issues. Even if we accept google is mostly good, and I mostly do, it is concerning. I hope that their voluntary meta structure will allow them to distribute fault tolerance and limit power consolidation.

bluecmd 11y ago

> As a publicly traded company, it optimizes for GOOG. False. The voting stock are not traded, so the founders still have irrevocable rights to do whatever they please.

vonklaus 11y ago
I meant that the company does what is in its own best interest. It does publicly trade stock with voting rights as GOOGL which has a 1:1 share to vote. It does not allow the class B stock to trade publicly which is 1:10. I meant, and you correctly pointed out was not clear or a particularly good way to verbalize, that google like most companies does what is best for itself. In googles case this is a combination of maximizing shareholder value and the vision various thoughtleaders in the company have. I do not believe google is evil or bad. I used to believe this. I now believe that google is doing a lot of great things. However by achieving horizontal success in almost every area of such a powerful concept, it effects how the landscape develops and does cause many issues. Even if we accept google is mostly good, and I mostly do, it is concerning. I hope that their voluntary meta structure will allow them to distribute fault tolerance and limit power consolidation.