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I think Sanders has radical ideas that will not work in America... I also support him for this reason. We do not need to be the next Norway, but we should have

by SN76477 11y ago

I think Sanders has radical ideas that will not work in America... I also support him for this reason. We do not need to be the next Norway, but we should have much better healthcare, education and intolerance of greed. I think that his fresh ideas will really bring this to fruition.

cmrdporcupine 11y ago
He is running a propagandistic campaign that seems to be more about 'bending the stick' of public perception of what is mainstream political/economic thinking in North America. And I think that is good and I wish him well. But for myself, as someone who would call himself a kind of Marxian socialist, I wish he'd stop calling himself a socialist. He is doing both himself (at best a Euro-style social democrat) and socialism a disservice.
- ph0rque 11y ago
  'bending the stick' of public perception I prefer the term "opening the Overton window". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window)
- vezzy-fnord 11y ago
  He might count as a Fabian, so I don't think the "socialist" label is necessarily inaccurate. It's a very diverse set of ideas.
wernercd 11y ago
> We should have much better healthcare, education and intolerance of greed And, isn't that what our current "Hope and Change" was supposed to bring? Just what we need... another 4/8 years of ineffectual leadership that changes nothing because this will cause nothing but gridlock.
jamiequint 11y ago
Why do we need less 'greed' (if you can even define that)? Is that quantitatively better for the country in some way? If so, how?
merpnderp 11y ago
Greed isn't going away. In purely socialist countries we just see the greed moved to the government where it is subject to far less checks and balances than in capitalism. For instance, see Cuba where there are a couple of really nice hospitals for the powerful in government, then some dirty hovels for everyone else. This is easily the biggest reason capitalistic countries are so much richer and better off than purely socialist ones.

by SN76477 11y ago

cmrdporcupine 11y ago

He is running a propagandistic campaign that seems to be more about 'bending the stick' of public perception of what is mainstream political/economic thinking in North America. And I think that is good and I wish him well. But for myself, as someone who would call himself a kind of Marxian socialist, I wish he'd stop calling himself a socialist. He is doing both himself (at best a Euro-style social democrat) and socialism a disservice.

ph0rque 11y ago
'bending the stick' of public perception I prefer the term "opening the Overton window". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window)
vezzy-fnord 11y ago
He might count as a Fabian, so I don't think the "socialist" label is necessarily inaccurate. It's a very diverse set of ideas.

wernercd 11y ago

> We should have much better healthcare, education and intolerance of greed And, isn't that what our current "Hope and Change" was supposed to bring? Just what we need... another 4/8 years of ineffectual leadership that changes nothing because this will cause nothing but gridlock.

jamiequint 11y ago

Why do we need less 'greed' (if you can even define that)? Is that quantitatively better for the country in some way? If so, how?

merpnderp 11y ago

Greed isn't going away. In purely socialist countries we just see the greed moved to the government where it is subject to far less checks and balances than in capitalism. For instance, see Cuba where there are a couple of really nice hospitals for the powerful in government, then some dirty hovels for everyone else. This is easily the biggest reason capitalistic countries are so much richer and better off than purely socialist ones.