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That's not what "hacker" means. An Hacker is some person who enjoys tinkering with systems. You mean "cracker".

alexandros 11y ago
There is no universal dictionary in the sky that defines what words mean. To some people, "hacker" means one thing, to some another.
- visarga 11y ago
  But there is, it's sitting right there in the cloud for us to access at one click away.
Dolores12 11y ago
cracker is a person that cracks software systems.
sarciszewski 11y ago
That's how things used to be. However, the meaning of words is decided by their usage. My attempt to summarize the new meaning of the word hacker is "any person who employs (especially technological) ingenuity to solve a problem". Full explanation: https://scott.arciszewski.me/blog/2014/08/cause-and-infect-why-people-get-hacked https://scott.arciszewski.me/blog/2014/08/cause-and-infect-w...
iheartmemcache 11y ago
Weev went to jail for literally HTTP GET'ing an AT&T server with a URL that was readily available on any Ipad device. In the RFC there's literally a return code for "Not Authorized", he got a good ol' 200 saying 'come on in' and got convicted of "conspiracy to access a computer without authorization". Federal prison for what was effectively WGET'ing something that was, again, readily available. Still, in the eyes of the public and the law, hacker and cracker are the same thing. The guy is a racist liar but he didn't deserve federal prison. His conviction was later vacated on a venue technicality, which sucks, because had it been overturned in a higher circuit with the judge offering an Opinion, case law would have been set and Aaron Schwarz would have at least some vindication[1]. [1] In no way am I comparing the character of these two men, just the injustice they both suffered at the arms of the technically illiterate law enforcement/legal system. If I were a medical doctor who was before the board being judged for malpractice, I wouldn't want a jury of 12 of my 'peers' deciding my fate - I'd want other doctors.
- jsmthrowaway 11y ago
  > Weev went to jail for literally HTTP GET'ing an AT&T server with a URL that was readily available on any Ipad device. In the RFC there's literally a return code for "Not Authorized", he got a good ol' 200 saying 'come on in' and got convicted of "conspiracy to access a computer without authorization". Everybody repeatedly says this while ignoring his behavior during and after obtaining the information, which is what he was really convicted on. He said so himself.
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lawnchair_larry 11y ago
False
strictnein 11y ago
This is a lost battle, unfortunately.
rhino369 11y ago
Dual meaning at this point.

There is no universal dictionary in the sky that defines what words mean. To some people, "hacker" means one thing, to some another.

visarga 11y ago
But there is, it's sitting right there in the cloud for us to access at one click away.

Dolores12 11y ago

cracker is a person that cracks software systems.

sarciszewski 11y ago

That's how things used to be. However, the meaning of words is decided by their usage. My attempt to summarize the new meaning of the word hacker is "any person who employs (especially technological) ingenuity to solve a problem". Full explanation: https://scott.arciszewski.me/blog/2014/08/cause-and-infect-why-people-get-hacked https://scott.arciszewski.me/blog/2014/08/cause-and-infect-w...

iheartmemcache 11y ago

Weev went to jail for literally HTTP GET'ing an AT&T server with a URL that was readily available on any Ipad device. In the RFC there's literally a return code for "Not Authorized", he got a good ol' 200 saying 'come on in' and got convicted of "conspiracy to access a computer without authorization". Federal prison for what was effectively WGET'ing something that was, again, readily available. Still, in the eyes of the public and the law, hacker and cracker are the same thing. The guy is a racist liar but he didn't deserve federal prison. His conviction was later vacated on a venue technicality, which sucks, because had it been overturned in a higher circuit with the judge offering an Opinion, case law would have been set and Aaron Schwarz would have at least some vindication[1]. [1] In no way am I comparing the character of these two men, just the injustice they both suffered at the arms of the technically illiterate law enforcement/legal system. If I were a medical doctor who was before the board being judged for malpractice, I wouldn't want a jury of 12 of my 'peers' deciding my fate - I'd want other doctors.

jsmthrowaway 11y ago
> Weev went to jail for literally HTTP GET'ing an AT&T server with a URL that was readily available on any Ipad device. In the RFC there's literally a return code for "Not Authorized", he got a good ol' 200 saying 'come on in' and got convicted of "conspiracy to access a computer without authorization". Everybody repeatedly says this while ignoring his behavior during and after obtaining the information, which is what he was really convicted on. He said so himself.

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lawnchair_larry 11y ago

False

strictnein 11y ago

This is a lost battle, unfortunately.

rhino369 11y ago

Dual meaning at this point.