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Conversely, Apple Maps still has no transit in Tokyo, rendering it completely unusable in one of the iPhone's largest markets. So don't extrapolate your city t

by level3 11y ago

Conversely, Apple Maps still has no transit in Tokyo, rendering it completely unusable in one of the iPhone's largest markets. So don't extrapolate your city to the rest of the world.

Bud 11y ago
Conversely, Google Maps is lame for transit everywhere in the world, whereas at least Apple Maps is making rapid progress here.
- lhl 11y ago
  I visited a dozen+ countries in 4 continents last year - GMaps did a pretty decent (often great) job with public transit. In the cases where there was no/bad data, it usually had more to do with the transit authorities being jackasses than anything in Google's control (Melbourne in particular stuck out as being just terrible).
  - terinjokes 11y ago
    After neither GMaps nor CityMapper having transit for Melbourne I just gave up and stood at the stop. :(
    - lhl 11y ago
      Yeah, I couldn't believe how bad it was, especially since Sydney has been fine for years. Apparently the root of this was their transit agency's longtime refusal to open up their data: http://m.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/melbourne-public-transport-tram-train-bus-users-stranded-with-unusable-data-20140310-34hxv.html http://m.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/melbourne-pub... Some data was finally released last April (promised as part of an election reform campaign), but as of October there were still GMaps integration issues: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/victorian-government-google-pointing-fingers-over-public-transport-fail-20151021-gkexuj.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/victorian-g... I was involved in a lot of (too many) geo/transit/open data conversations in the late 2000s, and sadly, this kind of short-sighted/nonsensical thinking was all too common, and I'm sure persists in many of the places where people lay the blame on GMaps, when it's actually due to stonewalling bureaucrats.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      Just use Öffi, Öffi has support for almost every city globally, including Tokyo and Melbourne. But the UI is ugly.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data. BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data. BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.

by level3 11y ago

Conversely, Apple Maps still has no transit in Tokyo, rendering it completely unusable in one of the iPhone's largest markets. So don't extrapolate your city to the rest of the world.

Bud 11y ago

Conversely, Google Maps is lame for transit everywhere in the world, whereas at least Apple Maps is making rapid progress here.

lhl 11y ago
I visited a dozen+ countries in 4 continents last year - GMaps did a pretty decent (often great) job with public transit. In the cases where there was no/bad data, it usually had more to do with the transit authorities being jackasses than anything in Google's control (Melbourne in particular stuck out as being just terrible).
- terinjokes 11y ago
  After neither GMaps nor CityMapper having transit for Melbourne I just gave up and stood at the stop. :(
  - lhl 11y ago
    Yeah, I couldn't believe how bad it was, especially since Sydney has been fine for years. Apparently the root of this was their transit agency's longtime refusal to open up their data: http://m.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/melbourne-public-transport-tram-train-bus-users-stranded-with-unusable-data-20140310-34hxv.html http://m.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/melbourne-pub... Some data was finally released last April (promised as part of an election reform campaign), but as of October there were still GMaps integration issues: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/victorian-government-google-pointing-fingers-over-public-transport-fail-20151021-gkexuj.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/victorian-g... I was involved in a lot of (too many) geo/transit/open data conversations in the late 2000s, and sadly, this kind of short-sighted/nonsensical thinking was all too common, and I'm sure persists in many of the places where people lay the blame on GMaps, when it's actually due to stonewalling bureaucrats.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Just use Öffi, Öffi has support for almost every city globally, including Tokyo and Melbourne. But the UI is ugly.
- kuschku 11y ago
  Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data. BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.
- kuschku 11y ago
  Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data. BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.