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PayPal CTO Resigns
- lifeisstillgood 11y agoIt's hard to read between the lines here. - 2 months is a odd notice period (one would expect three). So was he pushed? - the role is being split in two from his departure. This usually means the role had more power than was comfortable. - but it's still two Months. Any signs of gardening leave?
- dragonwriter 11y agoSenior VP Payment Services and CTO seem to be two roles that one person may have been right to fill in a special case (with a very special person), but where usually the best person to fill one wouldn't be the best person to fill the other.
- ori_b 11y agoIt's likely that it's been planned for much longer than 2 months, and is only being publicized now, after everyone has prepared for the transition.
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- minimaxir 11y agoPayPal had good earnings last quarter (http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/paypal-shares-up-on-earnings-revenue-rises-17/ http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/paypal-shares-up-on-earning...), so bad performance may not be the reason.
- paulftw 11y agoHe was CTO, why would infrastructure guy ever be held responsible for poor overall performance? It's not rocket science, nor F1 team
- kevin_thibedeau 11y agoShit flows downhill and they needed a scapegoat to make the board happy. The general public doesn't know what a CTO does so problem solved nice and neat.
- knowaveragejoe 11y agoI would disagree along the lines that the general public didn't even know there was a problem. I'm still not even sure what the issue was, myself(besides the usual complaints about paypal).
- tyingq 11y agoFrom his bio page: "In 2011, James moved over to PayPal, first as vice president of global product development and, beginning in 2012, as chief technology officer. In 2015, he expanded his role to also lead the Payment Services business in PayPal, a global team that powers the efficient movement of money and rewards into, out of, and within the PayPal network." So, he was CTO/Infrastructure Guy, then they added on SVP Payment Services some time last year, which sounds like it has a lot to do with overall performance.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> He was CTO ...and Senior VP Payment Services. > why would infrastructure guy ever be held responsible for poor overall performance? Payment Services is a pretty central business function for PayPal.
- Swannie 11y agoCTO can also be a product person, or at the very least they should be tightly integrated into the product development lifecycle. A CTO that is just an "infrastructure guy" is not a CTO by any measure I've seen. ALL C-level's are responsible for company results.
- pg_is_a_butt 11y agofuck paypal
- muyfine 11y agoNew Money needs a New CTO
- 27182818284 11y agoWhen you call their tech support and their own tech support gives up on their products and just recommends the now PayPal owned Braintree...well that wasn't the only bad sign I guess.
- coleca 11y agoAh you beat me to it. I was going to say he must have watched their Super Bowl commercial and figured it was all downhill from there.
- jeffasinger 11y agoMakes sense. I recently tried to send someone money on PayPal. They froze my account, and then CS suggested I wait 2 to 3 weeks for the account to unfreeze itself. Welcome to new money.
- meritt 11y agoZenefits just canned their CEO (ironically, over a benefits dispute), while their COO steps up to take over that role. Maybe James is leaving Paypal to become COO of Zenefits?
- metasean 11y agoDefinitely related, from http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/08/zenefits-ceo-parker-conrad-resigns-coo-david-sacks-takes-over/ http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/08/zenefits-ceo-parker-conrad... / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11061992 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11061992 >Also today, Zenefits announced that venture capitalist and PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel has joined the startup’s board of directors. In addition to relinquishing his role as chief executive, Conrad has also given up his board seat.
- pbreit 11y agoDefinitely not related. David Sacks and Peter Thiel are best friends from college.
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- pizzasynthesis 11y agoAdopters of the 'new' PayPal interface can probably attest to the poor quality, redirects and unexplained errors that have been popping up. After talking on the phone with two service reps, one of whom refused to let me talk to a technical expert as to why my email confirmation token wouldn't work and another who had to enable automated billing on my account manually (because it's totally broken in the client interface) I can only conclude the problems are widespread and currently still at large. I'm not surprised they have made a high-profile canning.
- Pxtl 11y agoYeah, PayPal works nice for the simple case, but it seems like any minimally complex payment structure, even simple recurrences, are a complete train wreck.
- coderdude 11y agoI transitioned back to the old interface almost immediately. The search interface for past orders is less powerful because you now need to know when an order was placed in addition to having the transaction ID. The old interface can pull up an order without having the approximate order date as long as you can provide either your own txnid or the customer's txnid. Additionally, I was no longer able to pull up orders using the customer's txnid. So, that was a bummer.
- speleding 11y agoSame here. They probably have an index on the txn ID, search is pretty quick that way, but on the new interface where they force you to search within a time span, it takes forever when its more than a few days. So the decision to force people to pick a time span is probably hurting their DB select as much as it is hurting the user experience.
- dangrossman 11y agoPayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually. It's a real challenge for their support staff that has to figure out which of several completely different interfaces a customer is seeing before they can provide any help with it. http://i.imgur.com/a1pYK8a.png http://i.imgur.com/a1pYK8a.png
- tyingq 11y agoThey do a lot of things with business accounts that is irritating. For example: - they should be able to remove the annoying "USE PAYPAL CREDIT FOR THIS??!?!?!?!?!" overlay. - show transaction ids on the payment confirmation page, rather than making us navigate to a 2 more pages after paying Oh, and not sure if this is related to just business accounts, but I have to log in twice to get logged in. Some kind of cookie bug that's fixed exactly once if I clear cookies, then starts happening again. And, lastly, since I see you have a few disputes/chargebacks...their chargeback handling process is horrid.
- dangrossman 11y ago> I have to log in twice to get logged in. I've had to log in twice for months as well. I can't comprehend their leaving something so basic broken this long. > And, lastly, since I see you have a few disputes/chargebacks...their chargeback handling process is horrid. I have no beef with their chargeback handling myself. It's something more ridiculous actually. Those 5 "open cases" are cases I opened against a hosting company 12 years ago, in 2004. They stopped paying their colo bills and the DC cut power to their racks, including all the servers they rented to customers. PayPal decided the best course of action, given no money in their account or linked bank accounts to pay any refunds, was to leave the disputes open forever. I can't even view the cases any more. If I try to search that far back in time, the dispute search times out and the site dies with no response (white screen), like some overloaded WordPress blog on shared hosting.
- jorgecurio 11y agoIs this coincidence or what? Yelp CFO also resigned. Two executives from two different sinking ships. Paypal is getting murdered by Stripe. Yelp thought it could raise stock prices by buying traffic. Something had to give, someone has to take the blame.
- eloff 11y agoPayPal a sinking ship? Getting murdered by stripe? I call bullshit - do you have numbers to back you up?
- DonHopkins 11y agoHere's a documentary about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO9OFJNMBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO9OFJNMBA
- npizzolato 11y agoLooking at Paypal's Q4 2015 statement, they made $500 million in profit on $2.5 billion in revenue, up from $400 million in profit on $2.1 billion in revenue from Q4 2014. If that's what a sinking ship looks like, I'd love to be on board! http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/AMDA-4BS3R8/1480311098x0x871870/9563A23D-53A8-4641-BC7A-C495B16E715C/Q4_15_Investor_Update.pdf http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/AMDA-4BS3R8/148031109...
- justin_vanw 11y agoIn the first down market Stripe will no longer exist. They are losing money at an incredible rate and no where near profitable. They are losing money at a rate of about $100MM per year, and having to raise the same. Perhaps they can make it to IPO, but even at a 3.5B valuation, they have to find profitability very quickly, a 3.5B market cap can turn into a $250M market cap very quickly, just ask GroupOn. When you are losing more per year than you can book in revenue, this is not a good business, and certainly isn't going to take over the market. This is doubly true if Paypal is firing their CTO, who is in the end responsible for their situation, poor usability, and very poor APIs. If Paypal wakes up and starts fixing their issues, they are closing the one and only thing that is giving companies like Stripe an opening.
- lwhalen 11y agoCouldn't happen to a nicer sleazeball. I have nothing but disdain for Paypal (and Square, at this point), their customer service is terrible, their limits (even for businesses) are laughably low, and their processes for increasing the limits are slow, opaque, and unable to be appealed. Nothing but the back of my hand for these chuckleheads, I hope they trip and fall on their megayachts.
- nightpool 11y agoI know of a lot of valid complaints against PayPal (bad support, poor policies, many unjust closures) but I haven't heard a whole ton about Square—certainly nothing to drop them into the same bucket as PayPal. Mind expanding on that a little?
- grubles 11y ago"Pop." https://twitter.com/djcapelis/status/696869166960095232 https://twitter.com/djcapelis/status/696869166960095232
- m3rc 11y agoAm I very dense or is this a reference to the tech bubble?
- zrail 11y agoCongratulations you got the reference. Gold stars for everyone!
- knowaveragejoe 11y agoI assumed people would be drawing this conclusion when I saw the top 3 threads right now. How do we know that is the case and not just statistical anomaly, though?
- losteric 11y agoThat was just a joke, for now. The idea that we're in a bubble on the cusp of collapse has been building over the past year, spiking when the feds raised interest rates, but there's no concrete evidence of a bubble popping. Yet. Get worried when we see (multiple) high-level execs also resigning from Facebook/Twitter/etc. Especially if it's of their own accord...
- djcapelis 11y agohttp://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Are-Twitter-s-exec-departures-a-sign-of-doom-6783246.php http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Are-Twitter-s-ex...
- bjacobel 11y agoMultiple high-level execs left Twitter about two weeks ago - four at once. http://recode.net/2016/01/24/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-confirms-key-executive-departures/ http://recode.net/2016/01/24/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-confirm...
- arthurcolle 11y agoTomorrow's top post: Zenefits CEO, Yelp CFO, PayPal CTO team up to Big Data the Internet of Things
- meritt 11y agoIt'll be an insurance company that holds hostage provider payments until you delete your negative review.
- jusben1369 11y agoOh bravo!
- thomasjudge 11y agoThat was very funny :)
- mangeletti 11y agoYou win! I literally laughed out loud for what seems like a while.
- petervandijck 11y agoYou could probably raise 10$M on that idea a few months back.
- minionslave 11y agoYelp CFO just resigned. What's going on?
- protomyth 11y agoA lot of companies need scapegoats this quarter. I would imagine a lot of envelopes are being stuffed today - http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Prepare_3_Envelopes.html http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Prepare_3_Envelopes....
- hindsightbias 11y agoUnicornco?
- jusben1369 11y agoThe role of CTO varies so greatly from company to compan . Some are hands on making major decisions. Others are almost academic; looking 18+ months out and responsible for understanding big trends et . Not sure which is the case here. Does anyone know?
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- nowarninglabel 11y agoI can at least agree that it varies greatly company to company. I've got some blog posts lined up relating to being a CTO, but it really is a varied position, and interchangeable with being a VP of Engineering.
- bitmapbrother 11y agoHe was pro "Old Money"
- pbreit 11y agoSo who's more senior after this? The new CTO or Bill Ready?
- shmerl 11y agoPayPal is being really obnoxious lately (like banning payments to VPN services and such). Or were they always that way?
- tonyedgecombe 11y agoThey have been like that from the start. I don't blame them, there was a lot of fraud going on and it meant they had to develop a very defensive attitude to things just to stay in business. It's hard to shake those things off once they are established.
- free2rhyme214 11y agoI switched to Google Wallet. PayPal would take forever to send money and has done nothing for years to innovate. All they do is buy startups (Braintree). I think this is entirely true - when the founders leave, companies stop innovating.
- lossolo 11y agoWorst ever support i have experienced. I do not contact support unless there is something i can't operate myself. They just copy paste things from their support FAQ... didn't receive answer to my question ever... Such incompetence.
- novapioneer 11y agohttp://recode.net/2015/08/31/top-paypal-executive-hill-ferguson-out-in-management-shakeup/ http://recode.net/2015/08/31/top-paypal-executive-hill-fergu... > Hill Ferguson, a top executive and officer who was SVP of PayPal’s consumer business, has stepped down, he announced in a post on Facebook earlier today. Bill Ready, who was Ferguson’s counterpart for the merchant side of PayPal’s ecosystem, is gaining more control and will now run product and engineering for the entire company, a spokesman said in a statement. http://www.zdnet.com/article/paypal-cto-james-barrese-resigns/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/paypal-cto-james-barrese-resign... > William Ready, the company's Global Head of Product & Engineering, will take over the "payment services functions" currently handled by Barrese, Is it really that big a mystery what is happening?
- dhimes 11y agoWell, it's a mystery to me. What do you see?
- novapioneer 11y agopolitics? power grab? the new guys coming in and pushing out the old? even battlehack, which started in 2013, which is probably one of the best things PP did for developers in recent years is awfully quiet now
- bitcuration 11y agoOh, finally. For a couple years, I can't pass authentication of PayPal on my iPhone no matter how I tried. While almost all the credit card and banks are now using fingerprint on iPhone, I need a hardware token device to really get in PayPal on iPhone. According to the rep the logic is I can use my phone number to receive 2 factor text code, then why advertised it. The new web has been continued puzzled me often prompt to go back to old UI for more details. This is in 2015, decades after online banking started and PayPal is not a government agency. However you put it, it doesn't add up.
- somesay 11y agoIn my case using SMS for 2FA only works within their new interface. Whenever an online shop is redirecting to PayPal, it's the old login page (and doesn't notice when already logged in on PayPal), so I basically never receive 2FA codes in that step. Not sure if just broken or they are using a different SMS gateway that has a problem with my country. It also doesn't really help that 2FA is still only known as hardware tokens within their documentation. It doesn't raise any trust for the PayPal website either.
- systemz 11y agoAbout that Paypal stability... https://i.imgur.com/PCkXnQu.png https://i.imgur.com/PCkXnQu.png