"As the web needs to outgrow proprietary plugins." I agree. What bothers me is all this "frustration" showing only after Steve Jobs mentions it. I highly doubt

"As the web needs to outgrow proprietary plugins." I agree. What bothers me is all this "frustration" showing only after Steve Jobs mentions it. I highly doubt his reason for bashing Adobe is due to his love for open web standards -- What I dont get is how hackers can side with Apple against Adobe given the iPhone App store mess... The model of the App store is against everything the open web stands for -- I think hackers should be more upset with Apple than Adobe.