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How would a word that contains the German s-ligature "ß" be written?
by kleiba 11y ago
How would a word that contains the German s-ligature "ß" be written?
- viewer5 11y agoAre there actually any words like that that have made their way into English?
- conceit 11y agoyes, ueber became uber.
- viewer5 11y agoThat does have the 'ß' character in it, though, which is what I was asking about.
- schoen 11y agoOne possibility is the unit "gauss" (which, like the person, is Gauß in German). I was trying to figure out whether the spelling "Delikateßen" was ever standard (it would have been "-essen" even before the spelling reform, I think). I found some old books with a Google search that did use that form, but I don't know if it was ever standard or was a variant spelling.
- yorwba 11y agoWords in the category "English terms derived from German" on Wiktionary[1] that contain "ss" instead of "ß": ahlspiess, edelweiss, Federweisser, frass, Preussen, stoss, sussreserve, weissbier, weisswurst [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_German https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_derive...
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- JoshTriplett 11y agoI've typically seen that transliterated as 'ss'. For instance, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss
- wolfgke 11y agoBy the new German spelling, "Schloss" is written with two s, since the o is short. In the old spelling, it was written "Schloß". On the other hand, for "Straße" the new spelling does not change the ß to ss, since the a is long. The best possible way to handle the ß is not transcribing it. In crossword puzzles it is transcribed as ss. In general, it is discussed whether one should rather transcribe ß as ss or sz (since ß is originally a sz ligature).
- asddubs 11y agono one transcribes ß as sz. It's always transcribed as ss
- wolfgke 11y agoThat is simply not correct. Indeed the ss transcription is much more common, but also the sz transcription is used: > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F#Ersetzung_und_.C3.A4hnliche_Zeichen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F#Ersetzung_und_.C3.A4hnl... "Kann das Zeichen „ß“ nicht dargestellt werden, weil es in der verwendeten Schriftart oder dem Zeichensatz fehlt, so sollte es durch „ss“ ersetzt werden (aus „Straße“ wird „Strasse“). In den (behördlichen) Fernschreiben wurde das „ß“ bis in das frühe 21. Jahrhundert durch „sz“ ersetzt. Dies war unter anderem bei Familiennamen wichtig („Straßer“ wurde im Text zu „Straszer“)."
- asddubs 11y agoThat's talking in the past, though. Which doesn't invalidate what I said
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- abrowne 11y agoThere are standard ways to write German when only the basic Latin/English alphabet is available, so "ss" for ß. Umluts get a following e: "ae" for ä. See, for example, KDE dev Martin Gräßlin's domain: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/about/ https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/about/