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You can do this in Windows firewall by enabling logging for all allowed connections.

by rasz_pl 11y ago

morganvachon 11y ago
Yes, but isn't that basically letting the fox guard the hen house? If you already don't trust Microsoft based on articles like this, depending on Microsoft's firewall is not really a logical choice. For what it's worth, I have Windows 10 Home and Pro as well as Windows 7 on several machines, and according to my router Windows 10 is only slightly more talkative than 7. I think that is mostly the Windows Store and Cortana stuff. The dreaded telemetry from 10 has already been backported to 7 and 8/8.1, so it's better to say "Windows tracks you" rather than "Windows 10 tracks you".
- vetinari 11y ago
  With Windows 7/8 you can opt to not install telemetry updates. With Windows 10, you cannot avoid that. It even highlights separate issue, that automatic forced updates are a bad thing.
  - morganvachon 11y ago
    > With Windows 7/8 you can opt to not install telemetry updates. For now, yes. In the future that may change, just as it did when the Windows 10 update changed from "optional" to "recommended" and the installation began without user interaction. When you combine that with Microsoft's truncated support life cycle for 7 and 8.1, you end up feeling forced to move to 10 one way or another. I'm not saying that Windows 10 is a bad OS (indeed, I enjoy it on my gaming PC and my Stream 7 tablet, and it has been a huge performance boost to my wife's PC and laptop). I'm just saying that any pretense of "Microsoft would never say one thing and do another" is null and void at this point.
    - vetinari 11y ago
      That's the danger of automatic updates. I used to have strictly manual updates set up. Yes, past time. One day I've had to hide KB3035583 one time too much, so now I'm getting used to El-Capitan.
- rasz_pl 11y ago
  logging is basic instrumentation, also used by telemetry, why would it not work?

You can do this in Windows firewall by enabling logging for all allowed connections.

by rasz_pl 11y ago

You can do this in Windows firewall by enabling logging for all allowed connections.

Yes, but isn't that basically letting the fox guard the hen house? If you already don't trust Microsoft based on articles like this, depending on Microsoft's firewall is not really a logical choice. For what it's worth, I have Windows 10 Home and Pro as well as Windows 7 on several machines, and according to my router Windows 10 is only slightly more talkative than 7. I think that is mostly the Windows Store and Cortana stuff. The dreaded telemetry from 10 has already been backported to 7 and 8/8.1, so it's better to say "Windows tracks you" rather than "Windows 10 tracks you".

vetinari 11y ago
With Windows 7/8 you can opt to not install telemetry updates. With Windows 10, you cannot avoid that. It even highlights separate issue, that automatic forced updates are a bad thing.
- morganvachon 11y ago
  > With Windows 7/8 you can opt to not install telemetry updates. For now, yes. In the future that may change, just as it did when the Windows 10 update changed from "optional" to "recommended" and the installation began without user interaction. When you combine that with Microsoft's truncated support life cycle for 7 and 8.1, you end up feeling forced to move to 10 one way or another. I'm not saying that Windows 10 is a bad OS (indeed, I enjoy it on my gaming PC and my Stream 7 tablet, and it has been a huge performance boost to my wife's PC and laptop). I'm just saying that any pretense of "Microsoft would never say one thing and do another" is null and void at this point.
  - vetinari 11y ago
    That's the danger of automatic updates. I used to have strictly manual updates set up. Yes, past time. One day I've had to hide KB3035583 one time too much, so now I'm getting used to El-Capitan.
rasz_pl 11y ago
logging is basic instrumentation, also used by telemetry, why would it not work?