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> how irrational people are > the public wouldn't have cared if there was no safety > issue But there was a safety issue, so it wasn't irrational. Al

> how irrational people are > the public wouldn't have cared if there was no safety > issue But there was a safety issue, so it wasn't irrational. Also people do seem pretty clear on not eating animals which are also widely kept as pets, with the exception perhaps of rabbit.

marcoperaza 11y ago
From the research I've done, the main safety concern was Bute given to horses, and it seems like it's actually very rare for horsemeat to test positive for it and that when present, the amounts are not significant. Am I missing something? >Also people do seem pretty clear on not eating animals which are also widely kept as pets, with the exception perhaps of rabbit. I understand that apprehension. I'd probably have the same apprehension if a plate of dog meat was put in front of me, at least at first. I've had pet dogs and I cared a lot about them. But to throw someone else in jail over it? That ruins families, childhoods, and lives. Just so we can live with the fantasy that Fluffy is a person.
garrettgrimsley 11y ago
Separating the two sentences that you did from the comment as a whole weakens the argument that the poster was making. You don't address the point they made about people having no qualms about eating pig meat while simultaneously forbidding the consumption of cat and dog meat. I don't see how this is a rational position. >Also there seems to be a pretty clear dividing line between pets and food. Maybe in the time and place in which you exist, but in others the distinction is not the same. I have a pet dog, but I also enjoy bosintang. Is there a rational basis for why I can't have bosintang in the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India
- peteretep 11y ago
  > You don't address the point they made about people > having no qualms about eating pig meat while > simultaneously forbidding the consumption of cat and > dog meat > > Also there seems to be a pretty clear dividing line > > between pets and food There, you quoted it just after you called it an irrational position O_o > I have a pet dog, but I also enjoy bosintang. Is > there a rational basis for why I can't have bosintang > in the US? I wonder how much research you've actually done here? Public opinion on dog meat in Korea is shifting ... pretty much in lock-step with the increase of keeping dogs as pets in Korea. Additionally, people don't keep meat breeds of dog as pets. I wonder if you'll use historic cannabalism as an argument that humans are irrational for avoiding eating each other next?
  - meric 11y ago
    Maybe there's no hard-coded login inside a human brain that says "this is a human being, do not eat him" - but rather, the repulsion to eat something could be proportionally related to perceived easiness that thing could have a relationship with us.
  - garrettgrimsley 11y ago
    Your comment about there being a dividing line is only restating "pigs are food, dogs and cats are pets" rather than offering a rationalization for why this is the case. Sure, there is a dividing line, but why is there a dividing line? What makes the parakeet so different from the chicken, the cat from the cow? I'm familiar with the changing public opinion, but shifting public opinion does not constitute a rational basis. I assume that you would not approve of eating dogs if the practice was increasing in popularity. I also know that people don't keep nureongi as pets, but I'm not sure why you brought it up. Are suggesting that because they are specifically bred for slaughter this makes them OK to eat? From my perspective I see a group of people trying to force their views on others. I'm intimately familiar with this story because I've seen it in many different forms. For example, for years my father and many of my friends did not have the right to marry in the US because of people just like you. Many justifications for this bigotry were offered, but in the end it all boiled down to "it makes me uncomfortable." So, what's the rationale for why eating pigs is OK but eating cats and dogs is off limits? Is it just personal discomfort? Help me understand.
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marcoperaza 11y ago

From the research I've done, the main safety concern was Bute given to horses, and it seems like it's actually very rare for horsemeat to test positive for it and that when present, the amounts are not significant. Am I missing something? >Also people do seem pretty clear on not eating animals which are also widely kept as pets, with the exception perhaps of rabbit. I understand that apprehension. I'd probably have the same apprehension if a plate of dog meat was put in front of me, at least at first. I've had pet dogs and I cared a lot about them. But to throw someone else in jail over it? That ruins families, childhoods, and lives. Just so we can live with the fantasy that Fluffy is a person.

garrettgrimsley 11y ago

Separating the two sentences that you did from the comment as a whole weakens the argument that the poster was making. You don't address the point they made about people having no qualms about eating pig meat while simultaneously forbidding the consumption of cat and dog meat. I don't see how this is a rational position. >Also there seems to be a pretty clear dividing line between pets and food. Maybe in the time and place in which you exist, but in others the distinction is not the same. I have a pet dog, but I also enjoy bosintang. Is there a rational basis for why I can't have bosintang in the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India

peteretep 11y ago
> You don't address the point they made about people > having no qualms about eating pig meat while > simultaneously forbidding the consumption of cat and > dog meat > > Also there seems to be a pretty clear dividing line > > between pets and food There, you quoted it just after you called it an irrational position O_o > I have a pet dog, but I also enjoy bosintang. Is > there a rational basis for why I can't have bosintang > in the US? I wonder how much research you've actually done here? Public opinion on dog meat in Korea is shifting ... pretty much in lock-step with the increase of keeping dogs as pets in Korea. Additionally, people don't keep meat breeds of dog as pets. I wonder if you'll use historic cannabalism as an argument that humans are irrational for avoiding eating each other next?
- meric 11y ago
  Maybe there's no hard-coded login inside a human brain that says "this is a human being, do not eat him" - but rather, the repulsion to eat something could be proportionally related to perceived easiness that thing could have a relationship with us.
- garrettgrimsley 11y ago
  Your comment about there being a dividing line is only restating "pigs are food, dogs and cats are pets" rather than offering a rationalization for why this is the case. Sure, there is a dividing line, but why is there a dividing line? What makes the parakeet so different from the chicken, the cat from the cow? I'm familiar with the changing public opinion, but shifting public opinion does not constitute a rational basis. I assume that you would not approve of eating dogs if the practice was increasing in popularity. I also know that people don't keep nureongi as pets, but I'm not sure why you brought it up. Are suggesting that because they are specifically bred for slaughter this makes them OK to eat? From my perspective I see a group of people trying to force their views on others. I'm intimately familiar with this story because I've seen it in many different forms. For example, for years my father and many of my friends did not have the right to marry in the US because of people just like you. Many justifications for this bigotry were offered, but in the end it all boiled down to "it makes me uncomfortable." So, what's the rationale for why eating pigs is OK but eating cats and dogs is off limits? Is it just personal discomfort? Help me understand.

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