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I just cannot believe what's on some of those slides. Here are some snippets -- imagine if you were to swap the races around, and replace every 'white' with 'pe

by danjayh 11y ago

I just cannot believe what's on some of those slides. Here are some snippets -- imagine if you were to swap the races around, and replace every 'white' with 'people of color', every 'asian' with 'white', and every 'people of color' with 'asian'. If you do these mental gymnastics, some of these slides will seem incredibly offensive -- so how is it that they're acceptable at all, regardless of what the races are. Here are some juicy quotes: "This is not work for white folks to lead" "We need solidarity with our asian friends and colleagues" "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" (...)

danharaj 11y ago
Yes, if you change the words in a sentence, the sentence's meaning can change.
bonaldi 11y ago
Because they describe asymmetric power relationships, so you can't meaningfully flip them. "Workers can sack employers at will, and that causes employers financial hardship, so we need employer protection laws" is a less-charged example of why it doesn't work just to straight flip such types of statement.
- bryanrasmussen 11y ago
  well in that case you would also have to change the action 'sack' because firing an employer is by definition impossible for an employee of that employer. The correct text should probably be: "Workers can quit employers at will, and that causes employers financial hardship, so we need employer protection laws"
- mc32 11y ago
  Power asymmetry makes sense at higher top to bottom levels, but not at the individual being hired level. There is no power asymmetry between candidates. That is, another interviewee has no power over me, nor I over her. And here we're implying hiring one type displaces one of another type and we're saying that we prefer one type to be displaced rather than another type to be displaced. Additionally, if we accept that white women are underrepresented then what it's doing is saying that some underrepresentations are better than others.
- bryik 11y ago
  Anti-strike legislation exists though.
- deleted 11y ago
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by danjayh 11y ago

danharaj 11y ago

Yes, if you change the words in a sentence, the sentence's meaning can change.

bonaldi 11y ago

Because they describe asymmetric power relationships, so you can't meaningfully flip them. "Workers can sack employers at will, and that causes employers financial hardship, so we need employer protection laws" is a less-charged example of why it doesn't work just to straight flip such types of statement.

bryanrasmussen 11y ago
well in that case you would also have to change the action 'sack' because firing an employer is by definition impossible for an employee of that employer. The correct text should probably be: "Workers can quit employers at will, and that causes employers financial hardship, so we need employer protection laws"
mc32 11y ago
Power asymmetry makes sense at higher top to bottom levels, but not at the individual being hired level. There is no power asymmetry between candidates. That is, another interviewee has no power over me, nor I over her. And here we're implying hiring one type displaces one of another type and we're saying that we prefer one type to be displaced rather than another type to be displaced. Additionally, if we accept that white women are underrepresented then what it's doing is saying that some underrepresentations are better than others.
bryik 11y ago
Anti-strike legislation exists though.
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