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Remember the Milk 2.0
- HNcow 11y agoUsed this service last year, and it was insanely outdated, glad to see they rebuilt for the ground up. That being said - $40 a year is obscene for what they offer IMO. Luckily I am able to use basic without needed the extra features. I'd love to pay to support this product, but probably not more than $10 a year. Call me cheap, but this is a nice to have, and competes with free services such as Google Keep.
- jcrben 11y agoYou're talking about a service which is theoretically used every day to help you run your life, and you think $40/year is expensive? In my experience, even my poorer friends routinely spend that at a bar or a restaurant. I've spent lots on various GTD apps, but lately settled on facilethings.com which is focused on the GTD workflow. I pay around $100/year.
- Spooky23 11y agoIt's a shinier version of a tasks function available in every phone for $0.
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- HNcow 11y agoThat would be a great point if it wasn't competing in a marketplace with other products. None of those pro features make me go "wow, this saves me so much time" compared to other offerings. My argument isn't that paying $40 for software a year is obscene, it's that this particular feature set in the competitive space is not worth $40 to me. And correct me if I'm wrong, but if I actually wanted to use these features with my girlfriend, would we not have to both spend $40?
- amazingman 11y ago>My argument isn't that paying $40 for software a year is obscene, it's that this particular feature set in the competitive space is not worth $40 to me. That's not what you said, though. It was your argument, then you realized you were overstating your case. Why not just say so?
- HNcow 11y agoIt literally is what I said. I'm unsure what you're reading. "$40 a year is obscene for what they offer IMO". Please feel free to show me the exact time I said "Paying $40 a year for any type of software is ridiculous".
- ekianjo 11y agoTask warrior costs nothing. And does a whole lot too.
- tdkl 11y agoTodoist is half of that price and basically can be used daily without notifications and comments for free.
- cdelsolar 11y ago$40 per year is OBSCENE???
- echelon 11y agoSpeaking personally, it isn't something I would be willing to spend. It's within my budget, but I've never liked the thought of software as a service for something that doesn't feel like a service. No ill will to the developer, of course. I'll continue to use the original app.
- brandon272 11y agoThe "service" would be continuous product improvements, technical support, hosting of the app and your hosting of your data. I think it's erroneous to seize on the "service" aspect of SaaS. In many cases you are effectively paying a monthly licensing fee for additional functionality within the app.
- e40 11y agoI'm pretty sure last time I renewed it was $24/yr. Sad to see it's gone up. I was on the fence at $24, for how much I use it. At $40 I'll probably look for something else.
- e40 11y agoLooks like I use so few features of RTM that I can use Google Keep. I know, however, right after I start using it that Google will kill the project. My Tracks, my favorite Android app, is going away on 4/30/16. Maybe I should just pay the $40/yr. <frustrated>
- brandon272 11y agoThere is absolutely nothing "obscene" about $40/year ($3.33/mo) for a premium upgrade on a freemium app that has had thousands of hours and plenty of blood, sweat and tears invested into it. Frankly, I find your comments bordering on disrespectful to the developers and probably depressing to anyone who tries to earn a living developing software.
- AznHisoka 11y agoThe "thousands of hours and plenty of blood" sadly doesn't factor into whether you should pay $40/year for it. It's about the value it provides and OP thinks it's not worth that much to him. Don't try to make this into a moral argument.
- brandon272 11y ago> The "thousands of hours and plenty of blood" sadly doesn't factor into whether you should pay $40/year for it. It speaks to the breadth and quality of the app. The investment of time matters. I pay for Office 365 and Adobe Creative Cloud and the huge investment of time to create the products within those suites is the basis of the whole product. It's what I'm paying for. It goes without saying that if you do not use this product or have no use for this product, you would not pay anything for it, much less $40 a year. But if you are an actual user of this product and it provides value to you, it is simply ludicrous to say that a $3/mo. commitment to it is "obscene".
- mistermann 11y agoThey might make more $ if they had some sort of a tiered pricing model, $40 is "too much" for me to spend on a TODO list as well.
- brandon272 11y agoPerhaps you're right. From my perspective, $3/month just seems fairly inconsequential to me if it's a good app and I use it frequently.
- threatofrain 11y ago$40 yearly is around the paid tier of other like apps, such as Todoist ($30 yearly) or Wunderlist ($50 yearly). While the price may be high, saying it's obscene is an exaggeration of the strength of your case.
- wheatbin 11y agoI switched to RTM after Microsoft bought Wunderlist, and I'm satisfied with it. It doesn't allow file attachments, but there are workarounds. I do think $40 is a tad steep when compared to some of the other options out there.
- comice 11y agoGreat service. Enough features to be powerful, not too many to be complicated or difficult to use. Just right imo. And they're not a data mining company in disguise. Had a pro account for years and will continue to renew.
- jtth 11y agoRemember 2005? 43 Folders? That was awesome.
- supergetting 11y agoWow, you've been using it since 2005? I didn't realize until just now they actually went live Oct 11th, 2005. It's already been over 10 years since they started this thing.
- jtth 11y agoI used it a lot as an undergrad but then got on the whole Kinkless GTD/Omnioutliner thing, and am now fully invested in Omnifocus.
- supergetting 11y agoMy very first task with RTM was on March 2011 "Try out Remember The Milk" and ever since then I've been using it almost every day, great app, really fits well with my life style. BTW I really love the upgrade!
- perseusprime11 11y agoI have yet to come across a person who keeps up with their todo list on a daily basis.
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoSame. I love the idea of to-do lists but every time I start to get one almost up to date I miss out on some tasks, lose track and then it's horribly outdated and I start all over again. I wish I could find a solution that works. This RTM upgrade just brings it to parity with most other services with features their customers have been asking for for almost a decade.
- perseusprime11 11y agoFor a while I used workflowy and it lasted two days.
- tdkl 11y agoThe only solution that works is the one you made a habit out of it. That means sticking to it daily at least a month. (using Todoist + GTD for a year).
- kmfrk 11y agoI pretty much declared todo bankruptcy a while ago. Now I just use Siri for scheduled reminders, and I've recently started playing wtih shared Reminders lists, which was a feature I wasn't aware of until I found it by accident.
- girvo 11y agoFunny, that's exactly what happened to me. And the exact same solution. I find Siris reminders for my personal things and Calendar for stuff I need to do that is particularly time sensitive is more than good enough for my personal life
- BadassFractal 11y agoThis seems to bring RTM closer to feature parity with Asana. Used to use RTM back in the day, but Asana was such a 10x improvement at the time that it was a no-brainer switch. Now the answer to which one to use is less obvious.
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoSounds like it has come closer to reaching feature parity to many other services. I've used it in the past but when many other players are on the same (or more) platforms with a lower price and equivalent or better features I'm not sure why I would go back to RMT. Honestly I've never found a good service / app for handling todos. I start well meaning enough, get some lists with stuff I need to get done then they slowly get out of date, I stop using it and then I'm looking for something else a few weeks later. I wish more to-do apps integrated better with calendars. It's almost always shitty integration if it even exists. I wonder if this space is ripe for disruption if someone can find a way to keep people engadgrd and up to date with their lists. Maybe it wouldn't even be a list of sorts? Hmm. Just thinking out loud here.
- gcr 11y agoI like the idea of combining a todo list and a calendar. Here's a UI concept: Every day, it shows me the standard 9-5 "time grid" of 30-minute blocks. Maybe it would show them a week into the future too, like the 'week' view of a calendar app. Underneath, I'd have my stack of TODO items. Every morning, I would drag a few items into the blank spaces on the calendar to plan my day. Then, I could check things off as I finish them. If I fall behind, no bigs: just drag the old items onto tomorrow's time grid sometime. I've tried to simulate this with Trello. That's a great way to get the 'TODO' part down, but it isn't so great for planning my time. I've tried this with Org-mode. This really comes the closest out of all of them.
- sammcf 11y agoLiterally started wireframing this exact thing this morning, although with the default resolution, if you will, being a week. My plan was to be able to preset a small catalogue of "templates" for various days (eg I always have to put the bins out on Sunday, because garbage day is Monday - so my Sunday template will have a put the bins out task at 7pm every single time), then fill up the work hours with work tasks. After a late night conversation with some buddies about how each of us asks our wife several times a day what we are meant to be doing, exactly, at that moment, I just want a todo app that can answer the question for me. Gonna have a crack at Elixir for this, should be a fun project for getting to grips with a new lang.
- favadi 11y agoOne great thing about RTM is it fully usable without a mouse, despite is being a web app. The OS X client is only a wrapper to the web version, it seems.
- romanr 11y agoTry hiTask, http://hiTask.com http://hiTask.com it has great team features on top of regular task management.
- samuel1604 11y agoI just realised I had my account open since 2006 with bunch of undone task there (join gym was one of them), maybe I should complete them now
- mdw 11y agoTodo Apps must be a crowded market now, are apps like RTM 2.0 profitable? I can imagine lots of time went into building this.