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Another quote is "it is very hard to even interview people who are 'white'". This is absurd and disgusting. I haven't lived in the US for a while, but lately,

Another quote is "it is very hard to even interview people who are 'white'". This is absurd and disgusting. I haven't lived in the US for a while, but lately, I keep hearing all these expressions of straight up racial hatred of white people, all the way up to taking pleasure in white people "dying off" and so on. This kind of thing can't end well and needs to be stopped.

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- yulaow 11y ago
  Just to confirm this, I read a lot of time about black/asian people attacking those of the same ethnicity who don't agree on "white patriarchy" as being "just white inside!". I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way. You find this on tumblr, on pseudo-feminism propaganda sites, etc... a lot of this is collected in the subreddit reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction
  - u320 11y ago
    > I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way. Wouldn't that constitute cultural appropriation?
- yaakov34 11y ago
  Ideological intolerance is part of it, but it's clearly not the only part, given that the very first point in her slide is "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies. I don't see how much more explicit this lady can make the fact that she hates white people as such. As for German or Russian philosophers - that seems far fetched. This is an American phenomenon, and in its explicit and mainstream form, it is a fairly recent one.
  - jacalata 11y ago
    What, you can't even picture a white person being an ally if it's not as the leader of the group?
    - yaakov34 11y ago
      I can't picture a white person being an ally if white people are explicitly excluded from leadership. BTW, do you want to get started on explaining away "we can't teach white male managers empathy or compassion"?
  - ceejayoz 11y ago
    > "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies Not wanting to be an ally unless you're allowed to be in charge is a pretty perfect illustration of why the slide exists.
    - pkinsky 11y ago
      It's a department at a company. You're not allowed to say that 'people of ethnicity X will never be given a leadership position'. That's blatant racism.
      - ceejayoz 11y ago
        I'd argue the point is "don't stomp in and make it all about you".
        FireBeyond 11y ago
        No, the point is "this isn't a place where the white folk will lead". "the white folk"? That's pretty close to "you people"/"those people".
      - nwjtkjn 11y ago
        It's not just any department, but a department that specifically deals with diversity and race issues.
ronnier 11y ago
To even express that it's absurd will likely brand you as a racist. What in the fuck is happening?
- tomschlick 11y ago
  Tumblr is leaking.
  - honestcoyote 11y ago
    Apparently Reddit is leaking. Tumblr: the scapegoat for everything they don't like.
    - vidarh 11y ago
      As a white middle-aged male, Tumblr is the only place I've experienced what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism. It's quite fascinating to see just how vile some of it gets. Of course it is only fascinating to me because I can trivially withdraw from it and not be particularly affected.
      - honestcoyote 11y ago
        My point about Tumblr is that it's a huge site containing a lot of blogs. Seems like half (or over half) is porn. Most of the other half seems dedicated to rabid fanbases of various bits of pop culture. There's some politics like everywhere else on the net, but I have no idea why so many people here, including my downvoters, think it's this despicable bastion of frothy far leftism when that's only a small part of it. Hell, there's a dedicated base of white power blogging on Tumblr but no one ever mentions that. It's like saying Reddit is nothing but Red Pill / MRA / gamergate types, or HN is nothing more than clueless Valley types. Or that Twitter is nothing but people sending each other 140 character descriptions of lunch. I really hate lazy stereotypes of complex interactions, especially on a place like HN where people should be "native" enough to digital culture to know better.
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yulaow 11y ago
Just to confirm this, I read a lot of time about black/asian people attacking those of the same ethnicity who don't agree on "white patriarchy" as being "just white inside!". I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way. You find this on tumblr, on pseudo-feminism propaganda sites, etc... a lot of this is collected in the subreddit reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction
- u320 11y ago
  > I even read of people claiming they are trans-black because they inside them feel black (and I am quoting literally) and so other people must see them that way. Wouldn't that constitute cultural appropriation?
yaakov34 11y ago
Ideological intolerance is part of it, but it's clearly not the only part, given that the very first point in her slide is "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies. I don't see how much more explicit this lady can make the fact that she hates white people as such. As for German or Russian philosophers - that seems far fetched. This is an American phenomenon, and in its explicit and mainstream form, it is a fairly recent one.
- jacalata 11y ago
  What, you can't even picture a white person being an ally if it's not as the leader of the group?
  - yaakov34 11y ago
    I can't picture a white person being an ally if white people are explicitly excluded from leadership. BTW, do you want to get started on explaining away "we can't teach white male managers empathy or compassion"?
- ceejayoz 11y ago
  > "this is not work for white folks to lead", i.e. she doesn't want white allies Not wanting to be an ally unless you're allowed to be in charge is a pretty perfect illustration of why the slide exists.
  - pkinsky 11y ago
    It's a department at a company. You're not allowed to say that 'people of ethnicity X will never be given a leadership position'. That's blatant racism.
    - ceejayoz 11y ago
      I'd argue the point is "don't stomp in and make it all about you".
      - FireBeyond 11y ago
        No, the point is "this isn't a place where the white folk will lead". "the white folk"? That's pretty close to "you people"/"those people".
    - nwjtkjn 11y ago
      It's not just any department, but a department that specifically deals with diversity and race issues.

ronnier 11y ago

To even express that it's absurd will likely brand you as a racist. What in the fuck is happening?

tomschlick 11y ago
Tumblr is leaking.
- honestcoyote 11y ago
  Apparently Reddit is leaking. Tumblr: the scapegoat for everything they don't like.
  - vidarh 11y ago
    As a white middle-aged male, Tumblr is the only place I've experienced what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism. It's quite fascinating to see just how vile some of it gets. Of course it is only fascinating to me because I can trivially withdraw from it and not be particularly affected.
    - honestcoyote 11y ago
      My point about Tumblr is that it's a huge site containing a lot of blogs. Seems like half (or over half) is porn. Most of the other half seems dedicated to rabid fanbases of various bits of pop culture. There's some politics like everywhere else on the net, but I have no idea why so many people here, including my downvoters, think it's this despicable bastion of frothy far leftism when that's only a small part of it. Hell, there's a dedicated base of white power blogging on Tumblr but no one ever mentions that. It's like saying Reddit is nothing but Red Pill / MRA / gamergate types, or HN is nothing more than clueless Valley types. Or that Twitter is nothing but people sending each other 140 character descriptions of lunch. I really hate lazy stereotypes of complex interactions, especially on a place like HN where people should be "native" enough to digital culture to know better.
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