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you can't say anything anymore in the us because of the pc police

by markyc 11y ago

minikites 11y ago
You can't use pejoratives against people's ethnicity or mental/physical disability in polite society. That's not the same as being actually oppressed, sorry.
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andybak 11y ago
Your statement could indicate a range of opinions ranging from ones I agree with to those that are merely a fig-leaf for blatant racism. I'm afraid you'll have to express yourself in some more detail and avoid hollow cliches. This is a complex and nuanced debate.
- markyc 11y ago
  there is such a thing as being overly polite, to the point that your speech is just bland platitudes when your main concern is not offending anyone and guess what? even then, people are going to get offended there is a limit to how much you can sugarcoat everything you say in public, and i think the us has passed that limit into oversensitive territory you are right, it is nuanced my strategy is to say "sorry" when it's due, rather than overthink every minute iota. of course, i'm not running for office and i don't live in the us
- venomsnake 11y ago
  I find the way racism become THE WORST THING in the world wildly amusing. There are 7 000 000 000 people on the planet and all of them are racist. We people are wired to dislike people not like us.
  - juliendorra 11y ago
    That's exactly because it's a strong, widely shared cognitive bias (wired or not) that it's so important to counter it culturally. Countering natural behavior with culture is what humans do, for better or worse.
    - nibs 11y ago
      And how is that going for you so far?
      - juliendorra 11y ago
        Not sure what you are asking exactly (is that rethorical? Or do you expect a real answer?). If you really care :-) : I had the chance to be raised and still live in a very mixed part of Paris. There is racism, of course, and for example I can remember how kids of Portuguese descent were the object of mockery back when I was young. (That's significant because today it's put under the carpet as if it never occurred. It seems nobody even remember!). That makes you think about bias, how bias turn into systematic racism, etc. That makes you discover how people of course cluster around commonalities but also like to share and connect with others when given a safe context. Racism is quite pervasive in France, and for example younger generations make it a central part of their dialogue and jokes. But many people are working toward inclusiveness too. Just like women equality and wealth sharing, non-discrimination is not solved thing in any given society: it's a constant challenge to tackle, probably without an end in sight. It's probably the same for individuals: how can I be more inclusive? Less biased toward others?
        jacquesm 11y ago
        I know a couple of Dutch people that moved to Portugal. Surprise, even after living there for 30 years they are still openly discriminated against. My guess would be that such discrimination is so much a part of human nature that (sadly) if you put two people from one group and one from another in a room you'll instantly set off a whole slew of innate responses resulting in the two siding against the one. It's sad but that seems to be the state of affairs and I don't expect this to get any better in the next couple of centuries. Barring an alien invasion that gives us a reason to play 'us' against 'them' on a bigger stage I doubt humanity will be able to really overcome this particular hurdle. Which is sad because it is a large driver behind all the violence and misery in the world.
- markyc 11y ago
  well that's the problem you can't say anything anymore without qualifying it to the nth degree and sugarcoating it and making it as bland as possible, just in case someone somewhere feels that some thing you said was some how offending
matthewmacleod 11y ago
Shut the fuck up. You are perfectly welcome to say whatever the fuck you want. If you stay something fucking offensive, then you can fucking expect to be told to shut the fuck up.

you can't say anything anymore in the us because of the pc police

by markyc 11y ago

you can't say anything anymore in the us because of the pc police

You can't use pejoratives against people's ethnicity or mental/physical disability in polite society. That's not the same as being actually oppressed, sorry.

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andybak 11y ago

Your statement could indicate a range of opinions ranging from ones I agree with to those that are merely a fig-leaf for blatant racism. I'm afraid you'll have to express yourself in some more detail and avoid hollow cliches. This is a complex and nuanced debate.

markyc 11y ago
there is such a thing as being overly polite, to the point that your speech is just bland platitudes when your main concern is not offending anyone and guess what? even then, people are going to get offended there is a limit to how much you can sugarcoat everything you say in public, and i think the us has passed that limit into oversensitive territory you are right, it is nuanced my strategy is to say "sorry" when it's due, rather than overthink every minute iota. of course, i'm not running for office and i don't live in the us
venomsnake 11y ago
I find the way racism become THE WORST THING in the world wildly amusing. There are 7 000 000 000 people on the planet and all of them are racist. We people are wired to dislike people not like us.
- juliendorra 11y ago
  That's exactly because it's a strong, widely shared cognitive bias (wired or not) that it's so important to counter it culturally. Countering natural behavior with culture is what humans do, for better or worse.
  - nibs 11y ago
    And how is that going for you so far?
    - juliendorra 11y ago
      Not sure what you are asking exactly (is that rethorical? Or do you expect a real answer?). If you really care :-) : I had the chance to be raised and still live in a very mixed part of Paris. There is racism, of course, and for example I can remember how kids of Portuguese descent were the object of mockery back when I was young. (That's significant because today it's put under the carpet as if it never occurred. It seems nobody even remember!). That makes you think about bias, how bias turn into systematic racism, etc. That makes you discover how people of course cluster around commonalities but also like to share and connect with others when given a safe context. Racism is quite pervasive in France, and for example younger generations make it a central part of their dialogue and jokes. But many people are working toward inclusiveness too. Just like women equality and wealth sharing, non-discrimination is not solved thing in any given society: it's a constant challenge to tackle, probably without an end in sight. It's probably the same for individuals: how can I be more inclusive? Less biased toward others?
      - jacquesm 11y ago
        I know a couple of Dutch people that moved to Portugal. Surprise, even after living there for 30 years they are still openly discriminated against. My guess would be that such discrimination is so much a part of human nature that (sadly) if you put two people from one group and one from another in a room you'll instantly set off a whole slew of innate responses resulting in the two siding against the one. It's sad but that seems to be the state of affairs and I don't expect this to get any better in the next couple of centuries. Barring an alien invasion that gives us a reason to play 'us' against 'them' on a bigger stage I doubt humanity will be able to really overcome this particular hurdle. Which is sad because it is a large driver behind all the violence and misery in the world.
markyc 11y ago
well that's the problem you can't say anything anymore without qualifying it to the nth degree and sugarcoating it and making it as bland as possible, just in case someone somewhere feels that some thing you said was some how offending

matthewmacleod 11y ago

Shut the fuck up. You are perfectly welcome to say whatever the fuck you want. If you stay something fucking offensive, then you can fucking expect to be told to shut the fuck up.