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What is your favorite drink? I live in Sydney too (Bondi), and agree the new rules are ridiculous, but what's this about 'not mix it in the same glass'?

jclulow 11y ago
This is nonsense they trialled first in Newcastle. Prohibiting the sale of a double shot of spirits in one glass; eventually forbidding the sale of any neat spirits at all. Want a nip of expensive scotch? Hope it's still good drowned in soft drink.
- rbritton 11y ago
  In the US, Utah is very similar. Some places will sell you a "sidecar" shot with a mixed drink, but a lot won't. Hard alcohol is measured electronically to ensure it is exactly one ounce.
  - bigtones 11y ago
    And to the article authors point, that is because of religious reasons - in this case the Mormons.
- EdwardDiego 11y ago
  Oh God. I travelled to Newcastle to meet friends and went out on the town on a Friday night. My big mistake was waiting until 10:30pm to depart, because nearly everything was closed or getting ready to close at midnight - Newcastle's "favourite cocktail bar" was unable to make any cocktails. I'm from Christchurch, and we have a better nightlife than Newcastle, and our CBD got smooshed by an earthquake.
  - chris_wot 11y ago
    Your chances of being assaulted in Newcastle before the lockout laws were very high. I doubt you would be having much fun in the Emergency Department, getting stitched up.
    - tankenmate 11y ago
      Of course the heavy handedness of the Star Hotel has been long forgotten; now of course they boil the frog slower, so instead of riots we now have malaise and the brain drain. In the end there will still be loss, but this time it won't be accompanied regeneration. In time Sydney will become a financial / service sector equivalent of Port Kembla unless the ship is turned around.
    - girvo 11y ago
      Other countries, who drink more than us Aussies do and have zero lockout laws don't have the problems we apparently do with violence.
      - chris_wot 11y ago
        Which countries are you referring to?
    - madaxe_again 11y ago
      I have no info on what effect the licensing changes had, but I can vouch that Newcastle could be genuinely scary on a Saturday night. You haven't lived until you've hidden under a table while pint glass missiles hurtle overhead around a revolving dance floor on a boat on the Tyne.
      - nl 11y ago
        I think that's the other Newcastle. This one is north of Sydney (I guess they are both north of Sydney, but there's a bit of a hike to the one on the Tyne...)
        madaxe_again 11y ago
        Hah - right, yes, I'm talking about the one in England, which apparently has quite a bit in common with its antipodean counterpart.
        11y ago
  - toomanybeersies 11y ago
    Haha, Christchurch nightlife. It's so bad that I'm a uni student there and go to town maybe twice a year. There's about 4 places to go, they're all ages away from each other, and the lines are always really long. The council is also doing its best to kill the nightlife, strongly preferring craft beer pubs over clubs, and trying to bring in a 1 am one way door, 3 am closing policy. Apparently the bloke in charge of liquor licences at the council is teetotal too.
- EdwardDiego 11y ago
  Oh God. I travelled to Newcastle to meet friends and went out on the town on a Friday night. My big mistake was waiting until 10:30pm to depart, because nearly everything was closed or getting ready to close at midnight - Newcastle's "favourite cocktail bar" was unable to make any cocktails. I'm from Christchurch, and we have a better nightlife than Newcastle, and our CBD got smooshed by an earthquake.
cheerioty 11y ago
Jägermeister+RedBull ... Don't judge me ;)
- danieltillett 11y ago
  Maybe the bar staff are just trying to save you from yourself ;) Redbull and its siblings do contain a lot of caffeine which allows people to get drunker and still be physically active. One of my colleagues was convinced that all the caffeine drunk with alcohol these days is the cause of the rise in drunken violence.
- nness 11y ago
  "Jägerbombs"
- hanoz 11y ago
  Have you considered the UK, where on occasions one can easily feel like the only one in the pub not drinking Jägerbombs, and drinking to massive excess generally is a proud national pastime.
  - madaxe_again 11y ago
    Actually, in the UK, it is illegal to serve pre-mixed caffeine and alcohol, but it's rarely enforced. This is why many bars will pour the shot in a highball, and hand you a can of red bull, so what you then do is your responsibility, not theirs.
    - Symbiote 11y ago
      Are you sure? I can't find anything online that supports that. Many bars serve other drinks (vodka and orange, gin and tonic, etc) unmixed, so you can mix it to taste. Buckfast is still sold, and that contains caffeine. Kahlúa too.
      - madaxe_again 11y ago
        Ah, think you're right - this might just be Scotland where it's actually the law, but was certainly the common practice when I was working bars up north.

jclulow 11y ago

This is nonsense they trialled first in Newcastle. Prohibiting the sale of a double shot of spirits in one glass; eventually forbidding the sale of any neat spirits at all. Want a nip of expensive scotch? Hope it's still good drowned in soft drink.

rbritton 11y ago
In the US, Utah is very similar. Some places will sell you a "sidecar" shot with a mixed drink, but a lot won't. Hard alcohol is measured electronically to ensure it is exactly one ounce.
- bigtones 11y ago
  And to the article authors point, that is because of religious reasons - in this case the Mormons.
EdwardDiego 11y ago
Oh God. I travelled to Newcastle to meet friends and went out on the town on a Friday night. My big mistake was waiting until 10:30pm to depart, because nearly everything was closed or getting ready to close at midnight - Newcastle's "favourite cocktail bar" was unable to make any cocktails. I'm from Christchurch, and we have a better nightlife than Newcastle, and our CBD got smooshed by an earthquake.
- chris_wot 11y ago
  Your chances of being assaulted in Newcastle before the lockout laws were very high. I doubt you would be having much fun in the Emergency Department, getting stitched up.
  - tankenmate 11y ago
    Of course the heavy handedness of the Star Hotel has been long forgotten; now of course they boil the frog slower, so instead of riots we now have malaise and the brain drain. In the end there will still be loss, but this time it won't be accompanied regeneration. In time Sydney will become a financial / service sector equivalent of Port Kembla unless the ship is turned around.
  - girvo 11y ago
    Other countries, who drink more than us Aussies do and have zero lockout laws don't have the problems we apparently do with violence.
    - chris_wot 11y ago
      Which countries are you referring to?
  - madaxe_again 11y ago
    I have no info on what effect the licensing changes had, but I can vouch that Newcastle could be genuinely scary on a Saturday night. You haven't lived until you've hidden under a table while pint glass missiles hurtle overhead around a revolving dance floor on a boat on the Tyne.
    - nl 11y ago
      I think that's the other Newcastle. This one is north of Sydney (I guess they are both north of Sydney, but there's a bit of a hike to the one on the Tyne...)
      - madaxe_again 11y ago
        Hah - right, yes, I'm talking about the one in England, which apparently has quite a bit in common with its antipodean counterpart.
        11y ago
- toomanybeersies 11y ago
  Haha, Christchurch nightlife. It's so bad that I'm a uni student there and go to town maybe twice a year. There's about 4 places to go, they're all ages away from each other, and the lines are always really long. The council is also doing its best to kill the nightlife, strongly preferring craft beer pubs over clubs, and trying to bring in a 1 am one way door, 3 am closing policy. Apparently the bloke in charge of liquor licences at the council is teetotal too.
EdwardDiego 11y ago
Oh God. I travelled to Newcastle to meet friends and went out on the town on a Friday night. My big mistake was waiting until 10:30pm to depart, because nearly everything was closed or getting ready to close at midnight - Newcastle's "favourite cocktail bar" was unable to make any cocktails. I'm from Christchurch, and we have a better nightlife than Newcastle, and our CBD got smooshed by an earthquake.

cheerioty 11y ago

Jägermeister+RedBull ... Don't judge me ;)

danieltillett 11y ago
Maybe the bar staff are just trying to save you from yourself ;) Redbull and its siblings do contain a lot of caffeine which allows people to get drunker and still be physically active. One of my colleagues was convinced that all the caffeine drunk with alcohol these days is the cause of the rise in drunken violence.
nness 11y ago
"Jägerbombs"
hanoz 11y ago
Have you considered the UK, where on occasions one can easily feel like the only one in the pub not drinking Jägerbombs, and drinking to massive excess generally is a proud national pastime.
- madaxe_again 11y ago
  Actually, in the UK, it is illegal to serve pre-mixed caffeine and alcohol, but it's rarely enforced. This is why many bars will pour the shot in a highball, and hand you a can of red bull, so what you then do is your responsibility, not theirs.
  - Symbiote 11y ago
    Are you sure? I can't find anything online that supports that. Many bars serve other drinks (vodka and orange, gin and tonic, etc) unmixed, so you can mix it to taste. Buckfast is still sold, and that contains caffeine. Kahlúa too.
    - madaxe_again 11y ago
      Ah, think you're right - this might just be Scotland where it's actually the law, but was certainly the common practice when I was working bars up north.