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> I've yet to see any technology that can replace an old fashioned master password as the 1st factor. Since a few weeks I'm using the Windows Hello system on m

> I've yet to see any technology that can replace an old fashioned master password as the 1st factor. Since a few weeks I'm using the Windows Hello system on my new Surface Pro 4. Its using facial recognition, and it's pretty awesome: turn on the PC, sit still for a second, it greets you, logs in and you can work. For two factor logins I use the Microsoft Account app on Android, which also works very well (no typing a code, just approve the request on the phone). Now only if Microsoft would fix the power/sleep issues with Surface 4, it would be perfect.

TTPrograms 11y ago
Have you or anybody else tried to crack it? Ease of use isn't the only part of good security. Would a picture work? A recorded video on an iPad? etc.
- rorosaurus 11y ago
  Windows Hello uses an IR emitter and camera to get a 3D map to verify in addition to the ordinary webcam, and I've confirmed that mine doesn't fall prey to the most obvious of exploits. Of course, it makes the assumption that "<user>'s face in front of the computer means <user> wants to log in", which may not always be the case. That being said, I'm eagerly looking forward to reading about its pitfalls once people crack it.
  - mbreese 11y ago
    I wonder if your face would look different enough in the 3D map while under duress to stop it from authenticating. Or what about if you're unconscious? It sounds like it would be real easy to break this security with a $5 wrench.
    - girvo 11y ago
      That's the case for a lot of security, though?
- Maarten88 11y ago
  > Have you or anybody else tried to crack it? I've read it is very accurate: even twins who look very much alike won't fool it. But it still has some funny characteristics: if you train it for two people/faces (you can scan multiple times), it will happily let both people log into the account. Another gotcha: if I go for a coffee I usually lock my PC (Windows-L). If I then go too slowly, it will recognize me again and log me back in, leaving the pc unlocked.
JoBrad 11y ago
My wife has a Surface Pro 3, and slams it from standing on it's leg down on the keyboard cover. I wince every time she does this, because I expect the glass to shatter. But she never has issues with it sleeping. It's like the technological version of "Go the fuck to sleep" I suppose.
Terretta 11y ago
> Now only if Microsoft would fix the power/sleep issues with Surface 4, it would be perfect. Load the newly updated Intel display driver.

TTPrograms 11y ago

Have you or anybody else tried to crack it? Ease of use isn't the only part of good security. Would a picture work? A recorded video on an iPad? etc.

rorosaurus 11y ago
Windows Hello uses an IR emitter and camera to get a 3D map to verify in addition to the ordinary webcam, and I've confirmed that mine doesn't fall prey to the most obvious of exploits. Of course, it makes the assumption that "<user>'s face in front of the computer means <user> wants to log in", which may not always be the case. That being said, I'm eagerly looking forward to reading about its pitfalls once people crack it.
- mbreese 11y ago
  I wonder if your face would look different enough in the 3D map while under duress to stop it from authenticating. Or what about if you're unconscious? It sounds like it would be real easy to break this security with a $5 wrench.
  - girvo 11y ago
    That's the case for a lot of security, though?
Maarten88 11y ago
> Have you or anybody else tried to crack it? I've read it is very accurate: even twins who look very much alike won't fool it. But it still has some funny characteristics: if you train it for two people/faces (you can scan multiple times), it will happily let both people log into the account. Another gotcha: if I go for a coffee I usually lock my PC (Windows-L). If I then go too slowly, it will recognize me again and log me back in, leaving the pc unlocked.

JoBrad 11y ago

My wife has a Surface Pro 3, and slams it from standing on it's leg down on the keyboard cover. I wince every time she does this, because I expect the glass to shatter. But she never has issues with it sleeping. It's like the technological version of "Go the fuck to sleep" I suppose.

Terretta 11y ago

> Now only if Microsoft would fix the power/sleep issues with Surface 4, it would be perfect. Load the newly updated Intel display driver.