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> Transfiguration of wine into the blood of Christ in a communion service was often considered something literal, rather than figurative... Was? It still is.
by tcfunk 11y ago
> Transfiguration of wine into the blood of Christ in a communion service was often considered something literal, rather than figurative...
Was? It still is.
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoConfused. Has nobody who ever had communion ever tasted blood? Its nothing like wine. Clearly everybody knows its not a literal transformation.
- zingermc 11y agoYeah, you would think so. However, it really is a current teaching of the Catholic church. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoCute. They say the reason it still tastes like bread and wine is a "mystery" and it "surpasses understanding". So while it 'really is' his body and blood, it looks and tastes like its not and that's ok somehow.
- edgarvaldes 11y agoThey teach the transformation is at the "substance" level, instead of the "accident" level. From one of the Wikipedia cited sources[1] > the "substance" of the bread and wine is changed by the power of the Holy Spirit into the "substance" of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. At the same time, the "accidents" or appearances of bread and wine remain. "Substance" and "accident" are here used as philosophical terms that have been adapted by great medieval theologians such as St. Thomas Aquinas in their efforts to understand and explain the faith. Such terms are used to convey the fact that what appears to be bread and wine in every way (at the level of "accidents" or physical attributes - that is, what can be seen, touched, tasted, or measured) in fact is now the Body and Blood of Christ (at the level of "substance" or deepest reality). This change at the level of substance from bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is called "transubstantiation." [1]http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass/liturgy-of-the-eucharist/the-real-presence-of-jesus-christ-in-the-sacrament-of-the-eucharist-basic-questions-and-answers.cfm http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-ma...
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoYeah, another way of saying "even though nothing happens, we're saying something really does happen. You just have to believe!" Why bother saying it 'really' happens then? Just admit it; its a figurative change? Instead of saying its real somehow, followed by a description of exactly what a figurative change is.
- jghn 11y agoDepends on your particular sect of christianity