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SpaceX, Los Angeles. With the Obama administration's recent budget recommendations for NASA (cutting the Constellation program), we're continuing our expansion

by Macca 17y ago

SpaceX, Los Angeles. With the Obama administration's recent budget recommendations for NASA (cutting the Constellation program), we're continuing our expansion. Mad C++ & Linux skillz? Want to write code that lives on the International Space Station or controls our vehicle while it visits? Think humanity should colonize Mars? Drop us a line, we're hiring. Visit spacex.com/careers for more info.

plinkplonk 17y ago
Is this a US only job? Seeing as you would be writing code that runs on a vehicle on Mars, maybe you could accept code from a different part of the Earth? ;-)
- Macca 17y ago
  Yeah, unfortunately. The job requires either US citizenship or permanent residency. If you're interested in the reasons, google ITAR.
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    Too bad! Ah well, hopefully someone else will compete with the United States for Space Exploration in our life time. Nothing like fierce competition to stimulate making things easier for people trying to work for you! ok so I scanned through ITAR and it has 20 categories of items on the "Munitions List". If any non US hackers want to be "Munitions Expert"s, keep reading. (1) Firearms, Close Assult Weapons and Combat Shotguns (2) Guns and Armaments (3) Ammunition/Ordnance (4) Launch Vehicles, Guided Missiles, Rockets Torpedoes, Bombs and mines (5)Explosives and Energetic Materials, propellants,Incendiary Agents and their constituents (6) vesels of War and Special Naval Equipment (7) Tanks and Military Equipment (8) Aircraft and Associated Equipment (9) Military Equipment and Training (10) Protective Personnel Equipment and Shelters (11) Military Electronics (12) Fire Control, Range Finder Optical guidance and Control Equipment and (13) Auxiliary Military Equipment, (14) Toxicological Agents (15) SpaceCraft systems and Associated Equipment (16) Nuclear Weapons (17) Classified Articles, technical Data and Services not otherwise enumerated (!!!) (18) Directed Energy Weapons (19) Reserved(??) (20)Submersible Vessels and Oceanographic Equipment (21) Miscellaneous Articles with lots of items under each heading. And here's the bit that most affects hackers. Section 121.8 (e) Firmware and any related uniques support tools such as computers, linkers, editors, testcase generators, diagnostic checkers, libraries of functions and system test diagnostics specifically designed for equipment or systems covered under any category of the US Munitions List is considered part of the end item or component. Firmware includes but is not limited to circuits into which the software has been programmed. (f) Software includes but is not limited to the system functional design, logic flow, algorithms, application programs operating systems and support software, for design , implementation, test, operation, diagnosis and repair. Hey, on second thought I think I like being an "International Munitions Expert" Better title than "Code Monkey"!
    - stonemetal 17y ago
      Yeah it gets a bit crazy. At work we can't link to matlab because it is covered by ITAR.
    - dmoney 17y ago
      So this seems to make open-source software aboard a spacecraft illegal. At least the software specifically intended for spacecraft operation. That's a shame.
  - lutorm 17y ago
    Sounds cool. When I have my greencard I'll send you my resume... ;-)
  - marshallp 17y ago
    government delights in shooting its own foot
  - techiferous 17y ago
    If you're interested in the reasons, google mars metric crash. ;)
icey 17y ago
This is quite possibly the first job posting I've ever seen that has made me want to write C++.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  "This is quite possibly the first job posting I've ever seen that has made me want to write C++." yeah me too. And I am not even looking for a job! But it is probably US only. And I have no intention of traveling. Going through the degrading visa app process is not worth it.
- bravura 17y ago
  This is quite possibly the first job offering that has made me want to move to LA.
- bravura 17y ago
  This is quite possibly the first job offering that has made me want to move to LA.
- marshallp 17y ago
  sending c++ up in space - i's wouldn't want to sit on the spacecraft
  - marshallp 17y ago
    c++ is legitimately a bad choice -combination of python and c, or compiled safe languages like lisp/ocaml/haskell is better
wlievens 17y ago
Please open a Belgian office :-)

by Macca 17y ago

plinkplonk 17y ago

Is this a US only job? Seeing as you would be writing code that runs on a vehicle on Mars, maybe you could accept code from a different part of the Earth? ;-)

Macca 17y ago
Yeah, unfortunately. The job requires either US citizenship or permanent residency. If you're interested in the reasons, google ITAR.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  Too bad! Ah well, hopefully someone else will compete with the United States for Space Exploration in our life time. Nothing like fierce competition to stimulate making things easier for people trying to work for you! ok so I scanned through ITAR and it has 20 categories of items on the "Munitions List". If any non US hackers want to be "Munitions Expert"s, keep reading. (1) Firearms, Close Assult Weapons and Combat Shotguns (2) Guns and Armaments (3) Ammunition/Ordnance (4) Launch Vehicles, Guided Missiles, Rockets Torpedoes, Bombs and mines (5)Explosives and Energetic Materials, propellants,Incendiary Agents and their constituents (6) vesels of War and Special Naval Equipment (7) Tanks and Military Equipment (8) Aircraft and Associated Equipment (9) Military Equipment and Training (10) Protective Personnel Equipment and Shelters (11) Military Electronics (12) Fire Control, Range Finder Optical guidance and Control Equipment and (13) Auxiliary Military Equipment, (14) Toxicological Agents (15) SpaceCraft systems and Associated Equipment (16) Nuclear Weapons (17) Classified Articles, technical Data and Services not otherwise enumerated (!!!) (18) Directed Energy Weapons (19) Reserved(??) (20)Submersible Vessels and Oceanographic Equipment (21) Miscellaneous Articles with lots of items under each heading. And here's the bit that most affects hackers. Section 121.8 (e) Firmware and any related uniques support tools such as computers, linkers, editors, testcase generators, diagnostic checkers, libraries of functions and system test diagnostics specifically designed for equipment or systems covered under any category of the US Munitions List is considered part of the end item or component. Firmware includes but is not limited to circuits into which the software has been programmed. (f) Software includes but is not limited to the system functional design, logic flow, algorithms, application programs operating systems and support software, for design , implementation, test, operation, diagnosis and repair. Hey, on second thought I think I like being an "International Munitions Expert" Better title than "Code Monkey"!
  - stonemetal 17y ago
    Yeah it gets a bit crazy. At work we can't link to matlab because it is covered by ITAR.
  - dmoney 17y ago
    So this seems to make open-source software aboard a spacecraft illegal. At least the software specifically intended for spacecraft operation. That's a shame.
- lutorm 17y ago
  Sounds cool. When I have my greencard I'll send you my resume... ;-)
- marshallp 17y ago
  government delights in shooting its own foot
- techiferous 17y ago
  If you're interested in the reasons, google mars metric crash. ;)

icey 17y ago

This is quite possibly the first job posting I've ever seen that has made me want to write C++.

plinkplonk 17y ago
"This is quite possibly the first job posting I've ever seen that has made me want to write C++." yeah me too. And I am not even looking for a job! But it is probably US only. And I have no intention of traveling. Going through the degrading visa app process is not worth it.
bravura 17y ago
This is quite possibly the first job offering that has made me want to move to LA.
bravura 17y ago
This is quite possibly the first job offering that has made me want to move to LA.
marshallp 17y ago
sending c++ up in space - i's wouldn't want to sit on the spacecraft
- marshallp 17y ago
  c++ is legitimately a bad choice -combination of python and c, or compiled safe languages like lisp/ocaml/haskell is better

wlievens 17y ago

Please open a Belgian office :-)