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Yes, I am. There are populist and leftist governments in many countries, but the media is quite conservative. So Chavez is raving mad and closes everything he

by forinti 17y ago

Yes, I am. There are populist and leftist governments in many countries, but the media is quite conservative. So Chavez is raving mad and closes everything he doesn't like is supposed to be proof that the media is lefist? The Brazilian dictatorship closed TV Excelsior which was owned by a billionaire; does that mean the military were lefists? I don't see your point. The Brazilian government is systematically criticized by the largest media companies; that is undeniable.

rglullis 17y ago
> So Chavez is raving mad and closes everything he doesn't like is supposed to be proof that the media is leftist? Yes. Any sufficiently smart person would realize that the media outlets that remain on the air after Chavez' frenzy are the ones that are working aligned with the Government interests. > The Brazilian dictatorship (...) does that mean the military were lefists? No, it means that they were both authoritarian and anti-democratic, and that neither respect the press as an institution. Instead of letting the press do its job, i.e, report the facts to the general population, the want the press to work in their favor, brainwashing everyone and letting them run the country unquestioned. > The Brazilian government is systematically criticized by the largest media companies; that is undeniable. This is rather naive. Of course there will be "criticism". But that is independent of being left- or right-leaning governments. The important part to think about: is the criticism unwarranted? Is it incorrect? Do the news outlets actually go deep in questions that might show the government errors? Did any part of the media fabricated accusations? Do you think all the corruption scandals were invented by the big media conglomerates?
- foldr 17y ago
  >Yes. Any sufficiently smart person would realize that the media outlets that remain on the air after Chavez' frenzy are the ones that are working aligned with the Government interests. This is just false. Much of the Venezuelan media is extremely hostile to Chavez. He has closed some of it down, and bullied the rest, but there are still many media organizations operating that are highly critical of him.
- forinti 17y ago
  I would say that it is incorrect, yes, or at least incomplete. You never see any numbers when social programs are criticized. The NY Times or The Economist would give numbers, make comparisons and give some historic context.You just don't see that in most of the Brazilian media. Social spending is always portrayed as too expensive and patronizing. Now, if a state government has to come up with a billion dollars to woo in a new enterprise, that's alright and doesn't even require a second thought.

by forinti 17y ago

rglullis 17y ago

> So Chavez is raving mad and closes everything he doesn't like is supposed to be proof that the media is leftist? Yes. Any sufficiently smart person would realize that the media outlets that remain on the air after Chavez' frenzy are the ones that are working aligned with the Government interests. > The Brazilian dictatorship (...) does that mean the military were lefists? No, it means that they were both authoritarian and anti-democratic, and that neither respect the press as an institution. Instead of letting the press do its job, i.e, report the facts to the general population, the want the press to work in their favor, brainwashing everyone and letting them run the country unquestioned. > The Brazilian government is systematically criticized by the largest media companies; that is undeniable. This is rather naive. Of course there will be "criticism". But that is independent of being left- or right-leaning governments. The important part to think about: is the criticism unwarranted? Is it incorrect? Do the news outlets actually go deep in questions that might show the government errors? Did any part of the media fabricated accusations? Do you think all the corruption scandals were invented by the big media conglomerates?

foldr 17y ago
>Yes. Any sufficiently smart person would realize that the media outlets that remain on the air after Chavez' frenzy are the ones that are working aligned with the Government interests. This is just false. Much of the Venezuelan media is extremely hostile to Chavez. He has closed some of it down, and bullied the rest, but there are still many media organizations operating that are highly critical of him.
forinti 17y ago
I would say that it is incorrect, yes, or at least incomplete. You never see any numbers when social programs are criticized. The NY Times or The Economist would give numbers, make comparisons and give some historic context.You just don't see that in most of the Brazilian media. Social spending is always portrayed as too expensive and patronizing. Now, if a state government has to come up with a billion dollars to woo in a new enterprise, that's alright and doesn't even require a second thought.