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Nobody who is an expert on e-mail marketing would ever wander in here. They'd be too busy driving their Ferrari. I came in here by accident and came away with a

Nobody who is an expert on e-mail marketing would ever wander in here. They'd be too busy driving their Ferrari. I came in here by accident and came away with a prime example of why Hacker Newspaper doesn't link to comment threads. For every one intelligent comment by you, Patrick, there's a hundred by a bunch of people getting into bicker-y little soap operas about who voted for who. I study the Bobs and I can tell you they're all too busy for that shit. :-) I'm a little too busy for it myself. Anyway, for the record, I will happily get any story on the front page of Hacker News for the right price. I'm not kidding, I've done it before, on purpose. I once set out to teabag Hacker News and get a story about my own balls on the front page. It only took me two attempts. My e-mail is gilesb@gmail.com and I am more than happy to take your ducats.

tptacek 17y ago
You can subscribe to Patrick's HN comment feed on searchyc. I highly recommend doing that (for a couple different people); that's how I read comments here for the most part.
- giles_goat_boy 17y ago
  now that's a good idea.
Psyonic 17y ago
I'm glad you've finally stated outright that this community means nothing to you other than being a great place to advertise. I think it was already fairly obvious... but thanks for clearing up any doubt. You realize that paid upvote rings are a large part of what killed digg, and are killing reddit? And they will kill HN, if they become common enough. It may seem innocent and fun while you personally do it, but before long the front page is nothing but posts about balls, and who wants to read that? Feel free to rag on all the "drama" it creates, but that's because people here actually care about the quality of this site. Is that stupid? Naive? To you, clearly. But I think it's perfectly reasonable to desire that your favorite stomping ground not become just another place where the almighty dollar trumps all.
- swombat 17y ago
  Well done for falling into Giles' trap... Standard response: don't feed the trolls (even the well-known trolls)
  - giles_goat_boy 17y ago
    seriously. what a waste of time.
  - Psyonic 17y ago
    I'm well aware of the possibility that he could be trolling, but I also don't doubt that he'd do all he could to push an article to the front page for money. Obviously I can't control his actions, but what do you suggest we do? If we all just ignore him, it might work, but it also might suggest to people on the fence about the issues that the HN community doesn't care about that kind of behavior.
    - swombat 17y ago
      Dude, when it comes to Giles, it's not a "possibility that he could be trolling". It's a certainty. :-)
      - Psyonic 17y ago
        So what does that mean exactly? That because he's "always trolling," any attempt to argue with him is a waste of time? It seems like an easy cop-out, like declaring "I'm an asshole," before being a dick, and somehow thinking that excuses the behavior.
        giles_goat_boy 17y ago
        actually, I meant every word I said, and I think, along with Patrick's comments, my comment is one of the only comments on here with any content. but arguing with people in general is a waste of time. you get mad, your argument's logic goes out the window, and it's just a bunch of emotional name-calling.

tptacek 17y ago

You can subscribe to Patrick's HN comment feed on searchyc. I highly recommend doing that (for a couple different people); that's how I read comments here for the most part.

giles_goat_boy 17y ago
now that's a good idea.

Psyonic 17y ago

I'm glad you've finally stated outright that this community means nothing to you other than being a great place to advertise. I think it was already fairly obvious... but thanks for clearing up any doubt. You realize that paid upvote rings are a large part of what killed digg, and are killing reddit? And they will kill HN, if they become common enough. It may seem innocent and fun while you personally do it, but before long the front page is nothing but posts about balls, and who wants to read that? Feel free to rag on all the "drama" it creates, but that's because people here actually care about the quality of this site. Is that stupid? Naive? To you, clearly. But I think it's perfectly reasonable to desire that your favorite stomping ground not become just another place where the almighty dollar trumps all.

swombat 17y ago
Well done for falling into Giles' trap... Standard response: don't feed the trolls (even the well-known trolls)
- giles_goat_boy 17y ago
  seriously. what a waste of time.
- Psyonic 17y ago
  I'm well aware of the possibility that he could be trolling, but I also don't doubt that he'd do all he could to push an article to the front page for money. Obviously I can't control his actions, but what do you suggest we do? If we all just ignore him, it might work, but it also might suggest to people on the fence about the issues that the HN community doesn't care about that kind of behavior.
  - swombat 17y ago
    Dude, when it comes to Giles, it's not a "possibility that he could be trolling". It's a certainty. :-)
    - Psyonic 17y ago
      So what does that mean exactly? That because he's "always trolling," any attempt to argue with him is a waste of time? It seems like an easy cop-out, like declaring "I'm an asshole," before being a dick, and somehow thinking that excuses the behavior.
      - giles_goat_boy 17y ago
        actually, I meant every word I said, and I think, along with Patrick's comments, my comment is one of the only comments on here with any content. but arguing with people in general is a waste of time. you get mad, your argument's logic goes out the window, and it's just a bunch of emotional name-calling.