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Would you care to substantiate this idea that the district court which rejected the US extradition request simply "didn't take the request seriously"? Being th
by kafkaesq 11y ago
Would you care to substantiate this idea that the district court which rejected the US extradition request simply "didn't take the request seriously"? Being that this is an incredibly insulting accusation to make about the Polish legal system?
Had you bothered researched the matter a second or two (before making up a condescending opinion about it) you would have readily found the basis on which that court made the decision that it did. A very specific, and universally understood (and generally accepted) basis, in fact.
- tptacek 11y agoI don't think there's any productive discussion to have about the Polanski case, but if you're referring to the most recent hearing (I've linked to it below), I think it's contemptible. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world/europe/roman-polanski-poland-extradiction.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world/europe/roman-polansk...
- kafkaesq 11y agoThey would call it "due process." As an American, you're welcome to find that contemptible, if you like. But either way, I don't think the Europeans would particularly care.
- tptacek 11y agoHe was convicted of a heinous, drug-assisted rape of a child, one he surely committed (he does not contest the victim's story). He's had his due process. What he doesn't like is the outcome.
- kafkaesq 11y agoHe was convicted of the drug-assisted rape of a child ... No, he was charged with "drug-assisted rape", but not convicted. In fact, he wasn't "convicted" of anything; as part of a deal with the judge, he plead guilty to a related, but different charge ("unlawful intercourse with a minor"). But that's OK. Go on living in this emotionally-driven, fact- and reality-divorced haze if you want to...
- tptacek 11y agoDrug-assisted rape, unlawful intercourse with a minor, potato, po-tah-to, let's call this whole part of the thread off.
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- kafkaesq 11y agoDrug-assisted rape, unlawful intercourse with a minor So now you're basically implying that I was using that phrase to somehow obfuscate or water down what Polanski actually did. That goes beyond any disagreement -- that's just slimy.
- LordKano 11y agoA guilty plea counts as a conviction.
- kafkaesq 11y agoIt "counts" the same for sentencing purposes, but they're still different things (and the distinction does matter). For example, a conviction can be appealed but a guilty plea cannot.