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iLife was very important to Steve, he dedicated a lot of time demoing the apps on stage. He was a huge fan of ripping out all the features of iMovie. Same with

by jonknee 11y ago

iLife was very important to Steve, he dedicated a lot of time demoing the apps on stage. He was a huge fan of ripping out all the features of iMovie. Same with iTunes (which has gotten a ton of criticism over the years), he was the one that kept cramming everything under the sun into it. I don't know if he was as passionate about X Code, but he sure liked to brag about having the best development environment. Interface Builder in particular seems right out of Steve Jobs' brain (even if it sucks). Here he is introducing X Code: https://youtu.be/Rh5spZrzu6c?t=59m3s https://youtu.be/Rh5spZrzu6c?t=59m3s

agumonkey 11y ago
There are old videos of him speaking about development environment at NeXT (against Sun). Sir Steve did like allowing 'creation'.
gearoidoc 11y ago
Interface Builder is superb once you get the hang of it.
- jonknee 11y ago
  I won't start a religious war here, but IB is awesome in demos and less awesome in real world. Versioning alone is enough to make you go crazy (especially back in the .nib days!).
  - gearoidoc 11y ago
    I understand both sides of the argument - it took me considerable time to wrap me head around IB and for the longest time I just assumed I simply wouldn't "get it". Interested to how you do versioning on UI with or without IB though. Personally I just maintain branches until an agreed upon design is in place.
- rqebmm 11y ago
  It does a great job of getting you from zero to an app, but it breaks down terribly once you try to do anything custom with it. The fact that it hides code from the developer drives me nuts.
  - gearoidoc 11y ago
    Well it depends what you mean by custom. I create custom views all the time and its even better now we can render them 'live' in IB: https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/recipes/xcode_help-IB_objects_media/Chapters/CreatingaLiveViewofaCustomObject.html https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/recipes/xcode_help-I...
    - rqebmm 11y ago
      Ooh I forgot about that feature. It does at least answer my big problem with IB: you execute code you didn't write and can't read. I'll have to give live rendering another look.

by jonknee 11y ago

agumonkey 11y ago

There are old videos of him speaking about development environment at NeXT (against Sun). Sir Steve did like allowing 'creation'.

gearoidoc 11y ago

Interface Builder is superb once you get the hang of it.

jonknee 11y ago
I won't start a religious war here, but IB is awesome in demos and less awesome in real world. Versioning alone is enough to make you go crazy (especially back in the .nib days!).
- gearoidoc 11y ago
  I understand both sides of the argument - it took me considerable time to wrap me head around IB and for the longest time I just assumed I simply wouldn't "get it". Interested to how you do versioning on UI with or without IB though. Personally I just maintain branches until an agreed upon design is in place.
rqebmm 11y ago
It does a great job of getting you from zero to an app, but it breaks down terribly once you try to do anything custom with it. The fact that it hides code from the developer drives me nuts.
- gearoidoc 11y ago
  Well it depends what you mean by custom. I create custom views all the time and its even better now we can render them 'live' in IB: https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/recipes/xcode_help-IB_objects_media/Chapters/CreatingaLiveViewofaCustomObject.html https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/recipes/xcode_help-I...
  - rqebmm 11y ago
    Ooh I forgot about that feature. It does at least answer my big problem with IB: you execute code you didn't write and can't read. I'll have to give live rendering another look.