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You managed to invent two wild theories that have nothing to do with reality. So I will give you some facts, you you can invent a third theory: Both women enj

by speeder 11y ago

You managed to invent two wild theories that have nothing to do with reality. So I will give you some facts, you you can invent a third theory: Both women enjoyed the encounter with assange, and both women admired him. One woman, was concerned about the lack of preservative, and tried to get medical attention. Police got involved by themselves, both women declined to have Assange charged. The women, wrote on twitter about how awesome Assange was. Assange was informed of all this, but had to visit UK for his work, he informed Sweden, and asked permission to leave. The police concluded that indeed, Assange had done nothing wrong, and told him he could leave. After Assange left, suddenly prosecutors wanted him back in Sweden out of the blue. The women, made clear in the media that they DON'T asked Assange to be charged, the woman that made the police know about him, also made clear that she only wanted medical attention to check for STDs, and that she didn't wanted to get the police involved. I have impression that these facts don't fit 100% any of your theories, now you can come up with a new theory that fit them.

notahacker 11y ago
Your comments about the women are entirely consistent with the first theory, in which Assange misbehaves sexually to some extent and the women - who view him as a hero - are initially inclined to put it down to a misunderstanding until after comparing stories they start to worry it might be more of a pattern, and their sexual health might be at risk. It's not as if a prosecution deciding to press charges even when some of those making the allegations are reluctant to follow through is exactly unusual, especially when those expressing reluctance to take things further might have strong personal loyalties to the accused and are facing an internet hate mob. Faced with an allegation that a sleeping person had been penetrated in a way they'd explicitly asked not to be, the police aren't expected to rely on the victim's understanding of rape law and/or whether the victim thinks the alleged's other behaviour has been positively heroic. And yes, complex and public cases like that get reviewed and sometimes reopened by more senior prosecutors, especially when the nation's bestselling fiction of the past decade was written as a polemic criticising their judicial system for being ineffectual in protecting vulnerable women from high-profile sex offenders. The alternate idea that instead of it being a pure (but unreasonably messy) fit-up-job there was some sort of Swedish prosecutorial conspiracy to get Assange to the US that involved actually waiting for him to be reported for a crime is too ridiculous to warrant a third theory, frankly. You can insist the Swedish prosecution service is lying about the timeline for Assange leaving the country and the warrant being issued until you're blue in the face, but that won't change the core fact that Assange was aware he was facing some serious allegations in Sweden, and dealt with the police in Sweden without any apparent fear of illegal rendition whatsoever until it became clear that he faced actual charges, for a crime allegedly committed on Swedish soil.

by speeder 11y ago

notahacker 11y ago

Your comments about the women are entirely consistent with the first theory, in which Assange misbehaves sexually to some extent and the women - who view him as a hero - are initially inclined to put it down to a misunderstanding until after comparing stories they start to worry it might be more of a pattern, and their sexual health might be at risk. It's not as if a prosecution deciding to press charges even when some of those making the allegations are reluctant to follow through is exactly unusual, especially when those expressing reluctance to take things further might have strong personal loyalties to the accused and are facing an internet hate mob. Faced with an allegation that a sleeping person had been penetrated in a way they'd explicitly asked not to be, the police aren't expected to rely on the victim's understanding of rape law and/or whether the victim thinks the alleged's other behaviour has been positively heroic. And yes, complex and public cases like that get reviewed and sometimes reopened by more senior prosecutors, especially when the nation's bestselling fiction of the past decade was written as a polemic criticising their judicial system for being ineffectual in protecting vulnerable women from high-profile sex offenders. The alternate idea that instead of it being a pure (but unreasonably messy) fit-up-job there was some sort of Swedish prosecutorial conspiracy to get Assange to the US that involved actually waiting for him to be reported for a crime is too ridiculous to warrant a third theory, frankly. You can insist the Swedish prosecution service is lying about the timeline for Assange leaving the country and the warrant being issued until you're blue in the face, but that won't change the core fact that Assange was aware he was facing some serious allegations in Sweden, and dealt with the police in Sweden without any apparent fear of illegal rendition whatsoever until it became clear that he faced actual charges, for a crime allegedly committed on Swedish soil.