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If you become a father, won't you be obliged to pay child support? That's a long term drain on your resources you might not be ready for and that would be unfai

by mkaziz 11y ago

If you become a father, won't you be obliged to pay child support? That's a long term drain on your resources you might not be ready for and that would be unfair if the woman lied to you about birth control.

cperciva 11y ago
In the view of the Supreme Court of Canada, being required to pay child support to a child you never wished to father, does not constitute "harm". It may be worth noting here that child support is considered to be something to which the child is entitled, regardless of to whom the money is in fact paid; there have been cases where rapists have received court-ordered child support payments from their victims.
- adekok 11y ago
  > It may be worth noting here that child support is considered to be something to which the child is entitled That's only half true. The truth is that the father is entitled to pay, in the "best interests of the child". But there is no requirement in law or in practice that the mother actually spends the money on the child. Or even that she's accountable to the the father (who typically has legal rights over the child), for how any of the money is spent.
SeanDav 11y ago
It is unfair, but you are still liable for child support. The argument is that the child is your responsibility - if you don't want to risk having a child, don't have sex. Women have been known to take sperm from a used condom and impregnate themselves. If that happened to you, you would still be liable for child support.
- adekok 11y ago
  > if you don't want to risk having a child, don't have sex. ... which applies only to one sex. Women can have an abortion, and choose to not be a parent. Men can't. That doesn't sound like equality to me. Western courts have held that men have absolute liability for their sperm. This includes the following situations: * your girlfriend lies about being on the pill * your girlfriend fishes the condom out of the garbage and impregnates herself * your girlfriends roommate fishes the condom out of the garbage and impregnates herself * your girlfriend impregnates herself with the leavings after giving you oral sex * as an underage boy, you are raped by an adult woman. The last one is surprising. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/9612220045_1_pay-child-support-child-support-behalf http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/96122... The judge said "Victims have rights. Here, the victim also has responsibilities." The admitted and convicted pedophile has full custody of a minor child, and her victim is ordered to pay the criminal money... or go to jail for non-payment of support. I support equality. I have a hard time finding equality in the court decisions in this area.
  - MollyR 11y ago
    That last article seems like a miscarriage of justice, and example of some horrible double standards.

by mkaziz 11y ago

cperciva 11y ago

In the view of the Supreme Court of Canada, being required to pay child support to a child you never wished to father, does not constitute "harm". It may be worth noting here that child support is considered to be something to which the child is entitled, regardless of to whom the money is in fact paid; there have been cases where rapists have received court-ordered child support payments from their victims.

adekok 11y ago
> It may be worth noting here that child support is considered to be something to which the child is entitled That's only half true. The truth is that the father is entitled to pay, in the "best interests of the child". But there is no requirement in law or in practice that the mother actually spends the money on the child. Or even that she's accountable to the the father (who typically has legal rights over the child), for how any of the money is spent.

SeanDav 11y ago

It is unfair, but you are still liable for child support. The argument is that the child is your responsibility - if you don't want to risk having a child, don't have sex. Women have been known to take sperm from a used condom and impregnate themselves. If that happened to you, you would still be liable for child support.

adekok 11y ago
> if you don't want to risk having a child, don't have sex. ... which applies only to one sex. Women can have an abortion, and choose to not be a parent. Men can't. That doesn't sound like equality to me. Western courts have held that men have absolute liability for their sperm. This includes the following situations: * your girlfriend lies about being on the pill * your girlfriend fishes the condom out of the garbage and impregnates herself * your girlfriends roommate fishes the condom out of the garbage and impregnates herself * your girlfriend impregnates herself with the leavings after giving you oral sex * as an underage boy, you are raped by an adult woman. The last one is surprising. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/9612220045_1_pay-child-support-child-support-behalf http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/96122... The judge said "Victims have rights. Here, the victim also has responsibilities." The admitted and convicted pedophile has full custody of a minor child, and her victim is ordered to pay the criminal money... or go to jail for non-payment of support. I support equality. I have a hard time finding equality in the court decisions in this area.
- MollyR 11y ago
  That last article seems like a miscarriage of justice, and example of some horrible double standards.