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> A principled president would have owned up to the misconduct and taken steps to regain the public trust. A principled president would be ashamed of the chilli

> A principled president would have owned up to the misconduct and taken steps to regain the public trust. A principled president would be ashamed of the chilling effect on journalists. There were only two Senators who voted against the "Freedom" Act [1] and also supported defensible net neutrality [2]. One of them is now a presidential candidate. Last May, they wrote: "I voted against the Patriot Act every time, and it still needs major reform." [3] [1] http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00201 http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_c... [2] http://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/to-protect-net-neutrality-markey-leads-senate-dems-in-call-to-reclassify-broadband-as-a-utility http://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/to-protect-... [3] http://time.com/3850839/bernie-sanders-usa-patriot-act/ http://time.com/3850839/bernie-sanders-usa-patriot-act/

vonklaus 11y ago
link [1] is down, in fact several links at senate.gov are down. I don't want to say your claim is disingenuous because you did throw a caveat in there, however Rand Paul did not support handing the internet off to the FCC to regulate if we want to call that defensible. He did however publicly rail against the freedom act and tried to fillibuster it though ultimately that failed.
- deleted 11y ago
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- ChrisAntaki 11y ago
  My comment was actually referring to Bernie Sanders. You're right though, Rand Paul did a lot to fight the "Freedom" Act.
  - vonklaus 11y ago
    > My comment was actually referring to Bernie Sanders. I know, I didn't know if you meant to disqualify him with that caveat. On balance he is a pretty good presidential candidate in that he has a lot of pro-freedom rational stances on important issues, they are predictable and he has been consistently vocal about them. Just wanted to point out Paul is a presidential canidate as well. edit: meant to qualify with, it seems like you didn't intentionally leave him out.
woah 11y ago
Regardless of your feelings on net neutrality, it is a completely different topic and the fact that you bring it up is strange.
- ChrisAntaki 11y ago
  Net neutrality is an important issue for many posters on Hacker News.
rconti 11y ago
I assume you mean Rand Paul; he has suspended his campaign for President.
- ChrisAntaki 11y ago
  Bernie Sanders actually, check out the links.
  - rconti 11y ago
    Thanks. I followed the links in your first two citations mentioned inline as relevant to figuring it out, and neither one provided the answer, which I found frustrating. I did not click on the third as from the comment itself it sounded unrelated. Of course, now that I look again, I can see it's basically there in the URL.
    - ChrisAntaki 11y ago
      Thanks for the heads up on Rand Paul's campaign. I liked hearing his POV in the debates.

vonklaus 11y ago

link [1] is down, in fact several links at senate.gov are down. I don't want to say your claim is disingenuous because you did throw a caveat in there, however Rand Paul did not support handing the internet off to the FCC to regulate if we want to call that defensible. He did however publicly rail against the freedom act and tried to fillibuster it though ultimately that failed.

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ChrisAntaki 11y ago
My comment was actually referring to Bernie Sanders. You're right though, Rand Paul did a lot to fight the "Freedom" Act.
- vonklaus 11y ago
  > My comment was actually referring to Bernie Sanders. I know, I didn't know if you meant to disqualify him with that caveat. On balance he is a pretty good presidential candidate in that he has a lot of pro-freedom rational stances on important issues, they are predictable and he has been consistently vocal about them. Just wanted to point out Paul is a presidential canidate as well. edit: meant to qualify with, it seems like you didn't intentionally leave him out.

woah 11y ago

Regardless of your feelings on net neutrality, it is a completely different topic and the fact that you bring it up is strange.

ChrisAntaki 11y ago
Net neutrality is an important issue for many posters on Hacker News.

rconti 11y ago

I assume you mean Rand Paul; he has suspended his campaign for President.

ChrisAntaki 11y ago
Bernie Sanders actually, check out the links.
- rconti 11y ago
  Thanks. I followed the links in your first two citations mentioned inline as relevant to figuring it out, and neither one provided the answer, which I found frustrating. I did not click on the third as from the comment itself it sounded unrelated. Of course, now that I look again, I can see it's basically there in the URL.
  - ChrisAntaki 11y ago
    Thanks for the heads up on Rand Paul's campaign. I liked hearing his POV in the debates.