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Sorry, I used to work at IBM and in my mind Java is WebSphere and a lot of suffering. Certainly, there are other simple ways to use the Java stack with things
by iends 11y ago
Sorry, I used to work at IBM and in my mind Java is WebSphere and a lot of suffering.
Certainly, there are other simple ways to use the Java stack with things like Play. DropWizard, etc.
But there is certainly a lot more complexity around tooling and deployments and such in the Java ecosystem than either Go or Node.js (although I can't say I'm a Java expert, so it could just be I'm just wrong).
- mschulze 11y agoWith Spring Boot (not saying Spring is one of the "uncomplex" parts of the Java ecosystem) build and deployment goes like this: `gradle build`, `scp` the jar file to a server and then you can symlink it to `/etc/init.d/` and just use it as a service.
- ssmoot 11y agoI can totally understand that. Feels a bit unfair to paint an entire platform with the same brush if you haven't tried the more modern alternatives though. This is a full HelloWorld web-server in Spray: http://scastie.org/14680 http://scastie.org/14680 Play can get you to Hello World even easier: $ brew install typesafe-activator $ activator new my-first-app play-scala $ activator run That's going from an off-the-shelf Mac with only homebrew installed to running your first Play app. To deploy it just run the `dist` task instead, and copy the generated .zip file to a server. Unzip it and run `./bin/my-first-app`. The only dependency you have on that system is Java. Stick a load-balancer in front and you're good to go. It's light-years beyond anything I've ever experienced on any other platform on the *nix side of things. Especially since it's also so much faster than any other platform I've worked with (decade old c# doesn't count).