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Parse is shutting down, shall I migrate to another BaaS or Parse OSS offering?

21 points by b123400 11y ago

david90 11y ago
Most of developers will worry about any other BaaS will shit down as Parse does. A new alternative might be in a way of "take-away-parse" hosting solution. Not necessarily open-source but would be nice if it is.
- mansilladev 11y ago
  "shit down" -- you're on to something there.
- aikah 11y ago
  > Not necessarily open-source but would be nice if it is. I don't see any product like this succeeding if it doesn't allow customers to install the app on their own servers, frankly it's the end of wall gardened BaaS solutions, period. Firebase and co aren't going to fool anyone on that matter, they need to release an opensource version.
notliketherest 11y ago
An ironic 500 server error appears.
- hkarthik 11y ago
  Well that answers the question quite succinctly.
- mayyuen318 11y ago
  May from parse-hosting.oursky.com here, sorry as we are hosting the landing page on Heroku (yea I know it is ironic but it get the job done quickly), so when there was a spike of traffic it shows the 500 error. For parse-hosting, we will host each paid client on a dedicated AWS account, which is a different thing :)
jliptzin 11y ago
I guess I'm old fashioned, but I never really "got" Parse and other hosted backend services. It's easy enough to build a backend that talks to a mongo-like database (for the vast majority of use cases), especially with help from the hundreds of awesome and free libraries/drivers out there. Plus, you don't have the risk of some business executive randomly deciding to kill your backend, and when you're debugging, it's one less chance of the bug being in the platform you're relying on and not your code (which is something you can immediately do something about).
- jacalata 11y ago
  Not old fashioned so much as unable to understand the variety of backgrounds, skills and priorities that app developers have.
  - jliptzin 11y ago
    Well, if an app developer can't figure out how to store and retrieve user data in a simple nosql database, or set up a simple cloud server, or believes a backend is not worth spending any time on, I wouldn't have high hopes for that app.
- seanwilson 11y ago
  > and when you're debugging, it's one less chance of the bug being in the platform you're relying on and not your code (which is something you can immediately do something about). That's generally why you want to use them. You're using something that is already battle hardened and tested.
- aikah 11y ago
  Push notifications, ACL management done in a nice way, ... nothing that cannot be built quickly but you know how it works, one start with a prototype on Parse, because it's RAD, and the product ends up being the prototype because ... RAD . Granted there were other open source Baas before, but Parse had an nice UI admin, along with nice analytics. Overall it was a good product feature wise.
- st3v3r 11y ago
itaysk 11y ago
I guess many will jump ahead and offer easy migration such as Azure: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-welcomes-parse-developers/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-welcomes-parse-... (disclaimer: I work for Microsoft)
- mayyuen318 11y ago
  Yap but most of these migrations only migrate the data but left our Parse CloudCode, Web Hook, Background Jobs, etc. Not to mention the on-going maintenance of Parse Server such as upgrade / security patch. So a parse hosting service is to keep expanding offers on top of Parse Server open source implementation, and help provide the same hassle-free services some app developers looking for.
icn2 11y ago
I am not using parse's backend services. I am using its push services. Has anyone had experience with Amazon Simple Notification Service? I am thinking switch to aws sns (https://aws.amazon.com/sns/ https://aws.amazon.com/sns/).
timsayshey 11y ago
Some quick feedback. You guys need to offer a "Hobbyist" plan for around $30-60/per month. Otherwise you are really only shooting for a very small portion of Parse users with your base price starting at $199/per month. Then again that just leaves the market open for someone else to offer more affordable prices. Good luck.
- mayyuen318 11y ago
  Thanks! Actually, we're working on it. The key is for that price range we need to do it on shared hosting (instead of dedicated servers); We will put up a waiting list for people who are interested in "Hobbyist plan" soon.
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
No disadvantages to your service? Come on.
puppetmaster3 11y ago
Yes. AWS lambda. It's micro services. Remember 2000 data centers? Everyone was afraid to go Cloud. I predict cloud is going to die, like it or not, up next is microservices by many names. http://www.programmableweb.com/apis/directory http://www.programmableweb.com/apis/directory That is the future.
endel 11y ago
Previous code-base should rely on your own parse-server hosting IMHO. The dream of not worrying about servers AT ALL isn't exactly tangible, I think. I've written a short introduction to a BaaS I've been working on in the last couple of years, it would be great if we as a community embrace new ideas and have another good tool to do a great job as Parse had been doing: https://medium.com/@endel/hook-open-source-alternative-to-parse-com-written-in-php-ad25d26c625 https://medium.com/@endel/hook-open-source-alternative-to-pa...
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  > The dream of not worrying about servers AT ALL isn't exactly tangible, I think. Devops here. My bread and butter is people who start with "not worrying about servers" who eventually have to transition to "year, I'm gonna have to worry about servers".
jonathanpeterwu 11y ago
Take the time to move it to a self-hosted setup. You're already dealing with a company shutting down their own service. Best thing you can do is be self-sufficient and self-reliant.
nodamage 11y ago
It's probably worth pointing out that if you have existing released apps that depend on Parse and you want to preserve data continuity, it's pretty much necessary to transition to Parse Server.

21 points by b123400 11y ago

Most of developers will worry about any other BaaS will shit down as Parse does. A new alternative might be in a way of "take-away-parse" hosting solution. Not necessarily open-source but would be nice if it is.

mansilladev 11y ago
"shit down" -- you're on to something there.
aikah 11y ago
> Not necessarily open-source but would be nice if it is. I don't see any product like this succeeding if it doesn't allow customers to install the app on their own servers, frankly it's the end of wall gardened BaaS solutions, period. Firebase and co aren't going to fool anyone on that matter, they need to release an opensource version.

notliketherest 11y ago

An ironic 500 server error appears.

hkarthik 11y ago
Well that answers the question quite succinctly.
mayyuen318 11y ago
May from parse-hosting.oursky.com here, sorry as we are hosting the landing page on Heroku (yea I know it is ironic but it get the job done quickly), so when there was a spike of traffic it shows the 500 error. For parse-hosting, we will host each paid client on a dedicated AWS account, which is a different thing :)

jliptzin 11y ago

I guess I'm old fashioned, but I never really "got" Parse and other hosted backend services. It's easy enough to build a backend that talks to a mongo-like database (for the vast majority of use cases), especially with help from the hundreds of awesome and free libraries/drivers out there. Plus, you don't have the risk of some business executive randomly deciding to kill your backend, and when you're debugging, it's one less chance of the bug being in the platform you're relying on and not your code (which is something you can immediately do something about).

jacalata 11y ago
Not old fashioned so much as unable to understand the variety of backgrounds, skills and priorities that app developers have.
- jliptzin 11y ago
  Well, if an app developer can't figure out how to store and retrieve user data in a simple nosql database, or set up a simple cloud server, or believes a backend is not worth spending any time on, I wouldn't have high hopes for that app.
seanwilson 11y ago
> and when you're debugging, it's one less chance of the bug being in the platform you're relying on and not your code (which is something you can immediately do something about). That's generally why you want to use them. You're using something that is already battle hardened and tested.
aikah 11y ago
Push notifications, ACL management done in a nice way, ... nothing that cannot be built quickly but you know how it works, one start with a prototype on Parse, because it's RAD, and the product ends up being the prototype because ... RAD . Granted there were other open source Baas before, but Parse had an nice UI admin, along with nice analytics. Overall it was a good product feature wise.
st3v3r 11y ago

itaysk 11y ago

I guess many will jump ahead and offer easy migration such as Azure: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-welcomes-parse-developers/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-welcomes-parse-... (disclaimer: I work for Microsoft)

mayyuen318 11y ago
Yap but most of these migrations only migrate the data but left our Parse CloudCode, Web Hook, Background Jobs, etc. Not to mention the on-going maintenance of Parse Server such as upgrade / security patch. So a parse hosting service is to keep expanding offers on top of Parse Server open source implementation, and help provide the same hassle-free services some app developers looking for.

icn2 11y ago

I am not using parse's backend services. I am using its push services. Has anyone had experience with Amazon Simple Notification Service? I am thinking switch to aws sns (https://aws.amazon.com/sns/ https://aws.amazon.com/sns/).

timsayshey 11y ago

Some quick feedback. You guys need to offer a "Hobbyist" plan for around $30-60/per month. Otherwise you are really only shooting for a very small portion of Parse users with your base price starting at $199/per month. Then again that just leaves the market open for someone else to offer more affordable prices. Good luck.

mayyuen318 11y ago
Thanks! Actually, we're working on it. The key is for that price range we need to do it on shared hosting (instead of dedicated servers); We will put up a waiting list for people who are interested in "Hobbyist plan" soon.

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

No disadvantages to your service? Come on.

puppetmaster3 11y ago

Yes. AWS lambda. It's micro services. Remember 2000 data centers? Everyone was afraid to go Cloud. I predict cloud is going to die, like it or not, up next is microservices by many names. http://www.programmableweb.com/apis/directory http://www.programmableweb.com/apis/directory That is the future.

endel 11y ago

Previous code-base should rely on your own parse-server hosting IMHO. The dream of not worrying about servers AT ALL isn't exactly tangible, I think. I've written a short introduction to a BaaS I've been working on in the last couple of years, it would be great if we as a community embrace new ideas and have another good tool to do a great job as Parse had been doing: https://medium.com/@endel/hook-open-source-alternative-to-parse-com-written-in-php-ad25d26c625 https://medium.com/@endel/hook-open-source-alternative-to-pa...

toomuchtodo 11y ago
> The dream of not worrying about servers AT ALL isn't exactly tangible, I think. Devops here. My bread and butter is people who start with "not worrying about servers" who eventually have to transition to "year, I'm gonna have to worry about servers".

jonathanpeterwu 11y ago

Take the time to move it to a self-hosted setup. You're already dealing with a company shutting down their own service. Best thing you can do is be self-sufficient and self-reliant.

nodamage 11y ago

It's probably worth pointing out that if you have existing released apps that depend on Parse and you want to preserve data continuity, it's pretty much necessary to transition to Parse Server.