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For all the boring blather about Musk I keep bumping into, this is the first that says something good about the guy! Perfectly fine response to that disgustingl

For all the boring blather about Musk I keep bumping into, this is the first that says something good about the guy! Perfectly fine response to that disgustingly entitled venture capitalist.

vixen99 11y ago
Perfectly fine response to a rude customer.
- tempodox 11y ago
  As the owner of a business you're entitled to do as you like, but this still makes him look like a pansy.
  - masterponomo 11y ago
    No car for you!
  - throwaway433 11y ago
    > pansy This is a homophobic term of abuse. Please reconsider attacking people by saying that they are gay. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pansy http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pansy
    - camperman 11y ago
      He's using the last of the definitions you linked to: "one that is generally unmanly." No homophobia anywhere to be seen.
      - riskneural 11y ago
        I also grew up using pansy as in weakling, as in like the flower. Gay men can be pansies or not. Straight men can be pansies or not. Sometimes I am a pansy. Sometimes I am not.
      - ghaff 11y ago
        There is a connection to offensive meanings even if it's not strictly a slur. It's the wrong word here anyway--really the opposite of what I would take as the intended meaning. The behavior being argued here certainly isn't weak; those arguing against it are saying that it's overly aggressive.
        tempodox 11y ago
        Sometimes being overly aggressive is exactly what marks you as a weakling.
        camperman 11y ago
        "There is a connection to offensive meanings even if it's not strictly a slur." Honi soit qui mal y pense.
    - pc86 11y ago
      If you really felt that strongly about it I don't think you'd create a new account just to say so.
Shivetya 11y ago
Sorry, not impressed with the idea the boss can just cancel your order because you are critical of his work. However since he has loads of fanboy cash and karma to burn he gets a pass. Tesla was woefully late in delivery, they made no attempt to apologize as stated, and honestly I don't think they really care. Not a shining example of why the manufacturer direct model is better, if anything it shows people exactly why the dealership model will survive.
- bradleyankrom 11y ago
  Wouldn't the delivery issues have been exacerbated with a dealership middleman involved?
  - dsp1234 11y ago
    Let's say I go to a dealership and preorder a new car, and they let me down (for whatever reason), and I go online and write a bad review of my experience. I'm entitled to do that, and as a private business the dealership is entitled to cancel my preorder (though it's a childish move). At that point, I can just go to another dealer and preorder there, and hopefully get better service. That's just not possible with Tesla. There is no dealership competition with Tesla. If Elon Musk doesn't want to sell you a car, well then you are screwed. Less competition, less customer service, punishment for bad reviews, etc. Now, please understand that I'm a fan of the 'no dealership' model, which is why I'm highly disappointed in his reaction to the bad review. I was hopeful that Tesla would be a good citizen, and show everyone that the 'no dealership' model is a fair one, with no downsides. Unfortunately, this reaction isn't it.
    - pil4rin 11y ago
      But tesla would still be the manufacturer? How would a dealership benefit in any way? If there were others that didn't use the silly dealership model, you could go to them and buy an electric car on the internet. But tesla is first to market with an electric car at this scale, sure it can be seen as bad press to decline a pre-order, but introducing additional hands in the mix in no way would fix this situation. The problem lies with a lack of competition on this one- If tesla had any real competition, and supply constrains, do you honestly think a pre-order would be canceled?

For all the boring blather about Musk I keep bumping into, this is the first that says something good about the guy! Perfectly fine response to that disgustingly entitled venture capitalist.

vixen99 11y ago

Perfectly fine response to a rude customer.

tempodox 11y ago
As the owner of a business you're entitled to do as you like, but this still makes him look like a pansy.
- masterponomo 11y ago
  No car for you!
- throwaway433 11y ago
  > pansy This is a homophobic term of abuse. Please reconsider attacking people by saying that they are gay. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pansy http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pansy
  - camperman 11y ago
    He's using the last of the definitions you linked to: "one that is generally unmanly." No homophobia anywhere to be seen.
    - riskneural 11y ago
      I also grew up using pansy as in weakling, as in like the flower. Gay men can be pansies or not. Straight men can be pansies or not. Sometimes I am a pansy. Sometimes I am not.
    - ghaff 11y ago
      There is a connection to offensive meanings even if it's not strictly a slur. It's the wrong word here anyway--really the opposite of what I would take as the intended meaning. The behavior being argued here certainly isn't weak; those arguing against it are saying that it's overly aggressive.
      - tempodox 11y ago
        Sometimes being overly aggressive is exactly what marks you as a weakling.
      - camperman 11y ago
        "There is a connection to offensive meanings even if it's not strictly a slur." Honi soit qui mal y pense.
  - pc86 11y ago
    If you really felt that strongly about it I don't think you'd create a new account just to say so.

Shivetya 11y ago

Sorry, not impressed with the idea the boss can just cancel your order because you are critical of his work. However since he has loads of fanboy cash and karma to burn he gets a pass. Tesla was woefully late in delivery, they made no attempt to apologize as stated, and honestly I don't think they really care. Not a shining example of why the manufacturer direct model is better, if anything it shows people exactly why the dealership model will survive.

bradleyankrom 11y ago
Wouldn't the delivery issues have been exacerbated with a dealership middleman involved?
- dsp1234 11y ago
  Let's say I go to a dealership and preorder a new car, and they let me down (for whatever reason), and I go online and write a bad review of my experience. I'm entitled to do that, and as a private business the dealership is entitled to cancel my preorder (though it's a childish move). At that point, I can just go to another dealer and preorder there, and hopefully get better service. That's just not possible with Tesla. There is no dealership competition with Tesla. If Elon Musk doesn't want to sell you a car, well then you are screwed. Less competition, less customer service, punishment for bad reviews, etc. Now, please understand that I'm a fan of the 'no dealership' model, which is why I'm highly disappointed in his reaction to the bad review. I was hopeful that Tesla would be a good citizen, and show everyone that the 'no dealership' model is a fair one, with no downsides. Unfortunately, this reaction isn't it.
  - pil4rin 11y ago
    But tesla would still be the manufacturer? How would a dealership benefit in any way? If there were others that didn't use the silly dealership model, you could go to them and buy an electric car on the internet. But tesla is first to market with an electric car at this scale, sure it can be seen as bad press to decline a pre-order, but introducing additional hands in the mix in no way would fix this situation. The problem lies with a lack of competition on this one- If tesla had any real competition, and supply constrains, do you honestly think a pre-order would be canceled?